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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.17.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 712d3905-9c22-4c7b-8d30-8476134a2e1a X-Archives-Hash: f667a30dcdd8f2d8a7941491f8cad5fb Howdy, I finally got through with my backup restore.  I had shutdown the NAS box with Ubuntu on it since I was done with it.  I wanted to do some updates and check some other stuff, still learning how Ubuntu works, so I rebooted it.  I didn't hook up the drives with my backups on them since I don't need them to update and such.  The network not only doesn't come up, it is just plain dead.  The LEDs on the card are out, the router shows no connection either, not even as inactive.  I did a LOT of searching.  Found others with similar problems but nothing helped.  I found one thread that was recent and exactly my problem.  It appears that after some attempts to figure it out, the guru trying to help ran out of ideas.  I'll post a link below.  [1]  It's kinda hard to post info since I have no way to get it from the NAS box to my main rig since the network isn't working.  That said, when I run lshw -C network, it shows it as being disabled.  It looks just like the thread linked below. Since this is a built in network port and there is a history of issues with those things with me, I installed a PCIe network card.  It shows up the same way, disabled.  I rebooted the router just in case.  I also checked the BIOS to be sure it was enabled there, some glitch or something could have disabled it.  It shows up as enabled.  I checked the cable but then I thought of a way to rule out hardware.  I booted a Knoppix system that I have on the Ventoy USB stick.  I still love that thing.  :-D  The network came up and worked just fine without me doing a single thing.  I tried another image, can't recall which, and the network worked in it too.  I then said to heck with it, pulled out a spare hard drive and put it in place of the current drive with Ubuntu on it.  I then tried to install Debian.  Guess what, the network doesn't work with it either.  So, boot from USB image, network works.  Boot from a hard drive, network dead.  Since the Ubuntu forums are no help, searching didn't help, my last resort is to ask here, on a Gentoo forum.  :/  I figure there may be a few people here that use Ubuntu on some system and are familiar with this.  Given it works on Knoppix and such, it has to be something related to Ubuntu and I guess Debian as well.  I downloaded both those images a while back.  My first instinct, the updates broke something.  What's odd, it doesn't work with the USB Debian/Ubuntu images either and it worked fine before when I installed from it.  Anyone here have ideas?  Keep in mind, that thing uses systemd.  I thought I hated that before.  I truly hate that thing now.  Trying to figure out how to restart something is like pulling teeth with no pain meds.  Heck, I have to google just to find out what the name of the service is because most make no sense.  Still, I'd like to get it working.  If not, the 770T may end up with Gentoo yet. [1]  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483647 Thanks. Dale :-)  :-)