Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

[Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>]

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On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:39:57 GMT you wrote:
> On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote:
> > On 2020-01-13, james wrote:
> >> On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+owner@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
> >>> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this
> >>> message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your
> >>> information.
> >>> 
> >>> Here is the list of the bounced messages:
> >>> - 189231
> > 
> > How does one get to the message from that number? 

In order to receive an email of the bounced message you can send an empty 
message to the mailing list server, with the number of the message which was 
bounced in the address, e.g. to receive a copy of the above message number 
"189231", send this to the list:

gentoo-user+get-189231@lists.gentoo.org

HOWEVER ... your mailserver may still bounce the resent message.  I just tried 
to retrieve it manually, only for it to be bounced again silently by Gmail.  
If I hadn't received another notice for the same bounced message number by the 
M/L address 'gentoo-user+owner@lists.gentoo.org', I wouldn't know Gmail 
bounced it once more.  :-/


> > Is it possible to get
> > an URL to the archived copy at http://archives.gentoo.org/ using that
> > number?

Hmm ... not sure if this is possible, or I don't know how to receive bounced 
messages via http.  The way I do it is by following a process of elimination.  
I check an online M/L archive service and the bounced message is the one I 
have not received out of the list of recent messages.


> >> Anyone else getting these?

Yep. I do, but it may well be related to me using a Gmail to receive messages 
and Gmail may be rejecting the odd message for some reason.  I have not added 
any recipients to a blacklist myself, so this is a Gmail action.


> > It might just be the DMARC policy thing again.
> > 
> > Here's a thread from last October/November about a similar message:
> > https://marc.info/?t=157253734300001
> 
> It's my list emails, where I start a new subject. Usually, I can reply
> to an existing thread without issue.

Hi James.  I did receive your email yesterday from your verizon email address 
about Mesos, via the M/L.  It was titled "mesos updated ebuild advice?".  Your 
messages are being delivered to this M/L and Gmail distributes them without 
bouncing as far as I can surmise:

https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-user&m=157895127422780

The messages which seem to be bounced by Gmail are sent by Mr. Alan Grimes.  
The most recent bounced message was yesterday, titled "WTF is up with mysqld?"


> I've read this and still do not know what *I* need to do to fix this, or
> implement a workaround. I use thunderbird-(Installed versions:  68.4.1).

Nothing you need to do.  If people do not respond to a message it could well 
mean they have nothing valuable to add, rather than they haven't received it.

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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