From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA261381F3 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F077921C0BA; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51D5AE0652 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id jf20so1201843bkc.16 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:48:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=XxnNk7SjSDjz+w8k3RysaHQ4pOfMyENnRdf0b8VkIA0=; b=D3tL3FM4zW9rKEgfixsC57S9VtdhusJR+U2MuiKz7CMq/1+iU9/TXelauOToEQqak3 6x2ttgcdee0InFGX2grvDDR275w2OFZHdStsYO4ibKWQU3aNHV4nXKNJZw1WTMi97mlt cOZUj7I15KsaSgW1UL/lk+EwYEQFYilXN4CReMIGwEWl0AAly9OO/1/11pxSWC6T5xUt LKRhaYfj7+iUn+jylHWhoNdwuZnt98AJ2h21VxlDj17p3dT03GyK/18nMG3Z6mgN9Y86 lKZOSlAs02/cx8g77I8h6Ug8Pr0aRbYH82GSs/7YF8YzPK9Krsqw1FDGzpDxsDiT/je0 BPPA== X-Received: by 10.204.147.18 with SMTP id j18mr3108917bkv.79.1355942924781; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet (p4FC6022E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.2.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm5193180bku.6.2012.12.19.10.48.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:48:44 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Marc Joliet Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:48:45 +0100 Message-ID: <1779223.YqxXF0aHYH@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.4 (Linux/3.4.20; KDE/4.9.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20121218230241.5cfd8a78@marcec.hunte.us> References: <50CB1942.3020900@gmail.com> <970574.42250.bm@smtp140.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20121218230241.5cfd8a78@marcec.hunte.us> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: 0012d9ca-a8d0-46d5-9086-5780da97f702 X-Archives-Hash: 8f4365de4af098371b616e874a807c25 Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 23:02:41 schrieb Marc Joliet: > Am Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:34:07 +0000 > schrieb Kevin Chadwick : > > [...] > > > Going back in time > > his claim of pulse audio being good for professional audio was also > > completely off the mark. Seperating Gnome and pulse can now cause pro > > audio users on binary distro's major headaches too. I pointed one > > fellow in the direction of a pro audio on gentoo tutorial rather than > > deal with some new problems a little after systemd hit Arch. > > Holy cow, did he really? Link, please! I thought pulseaudio was only ever > advertised for desktop and some embedded use cases, and that Lennart is > perfectly aware of the fundamental differences between JACK and PA and that > they target a completely different range of applications [0]. I wouldn't > *dream* of using anything other than JACK (with LADISH) for pro-audio work > (well, more like "home recording" in my case, but close enough). > > I actually like pulseaudio for desktop use, though. When you start JACK it > will kindly get out of the way, so the two aren't necessarily mutually > exclusive (actually, you can set it up to automatically set up ports in > JACK2 with the jackdbus-detect module, if you want that). After a few years > of use I finally ended up requiring one of its more "advanced" features: > moving streams between sound cards at runtime. > > [0] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/when-pa-and-when-not.html remember this? a solution without a problem to solve, making a lot of people's lifes harder, dropped onto them by the godlike Lennart P.? http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2009/06/0218.html -- #163933