From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R3iQI-0007Pi-IL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:54:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 205BD21C34C; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469CA21C274 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.133] (helo=smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3iOV-0008Ld-Kb for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:23 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3iOU-0005Cl-RD for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:22 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E74D20 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UiXpiuhoHP1i for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 341A2CF4 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:20 +0200 Message-ID: <1769799.TszvVHMTQM@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <6554608.b7rUgfQ1py@pc> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R3iOU-0005Cl-RD X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: dc86d02ef75be64c73016dbee2371b21 On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrot= e: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer =20 wrote: > > If gentoo follows fedora on this mandatory initramfs trail, I'll sw= itch > > to FreeBSD completely. My software works on way more systems than j= ust > > "Linux". > That's of course your prerogative. And, as I said before: "Linux > strives to be much more than Unix, and that means do things > differently." If you want to do things the same way that it was done > in the last 20 years, maybe Linux is not the best of choices. I read it before, but to be much more then Unix, Linux should be doing = things=20 better. Being different is what led to MS Windows' > I myself think the new technologies are worth to change the way we di= d > things before. But that's just me. The new technologies have great merit. But, the implementation of it is= n't=20 thought through. > >> And maybe I shouldn't even mention it, but I don't use OpenRC. I u= se > >> systemd. And it works great on Gentoo. > >=20 > > Well. Linux only. If I wanted a monoculture, I would use MS-Windows= or > > OSX. > Relax man. I mention what I use: I'm not forcing you (or anybody else= ) > to use it. But I repeat (because I said it before) that I care about > Linux, and Linux only. If you care about Linux, why do you allow it to be broken in such a=20 fundamental way? -- Joost