J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, August 19, 2013 12:55, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:17:06 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Here's a short, very in-comprehensive list of software we are aware
of that currently are not able to provide the full set of functionality
when /usr is split off and not pre-mounted at boot:
udev-pci-db/udev-usb-db and all rules depending on this (using the
PCI/USB database in /usr/share), PulseAudio, NetworkManager,
ModemManager, udisks, libatasmart, usb_modeswitch, gnome-color-manager,
usbmuxd, ALSA, D-Bus, CUPS, Plymouth, LVM, hplip,
multipath, Argyll,
VMWare, the locale logic of most programs and a lot of other stuff. [1]
How much of that is needed before the contents of /etc/fstab are
mounted? I certainly don't need to run a desktop, used a 3G modem, play
sounds or load a virtual machine before then. Yes, LVM may be needed, but
the needed parts are in /sbin anyway, so that is a red herring too.
It is a red herring.
I currently use an initramfs, but that is because I decided to put "/" on
LVM as well.
When I had "/" as a normal partition and /usr on LVM, there were no issues
with booting. Currently, with the initramfs, I get errors about / and /usr
not being able to umount during shutdown.
--
Joost
I to have / on a traditional partition, ext4, and /boot on a small ext2
partition. Everything else is on LVM. I don't want a init thingy
either. I had nightmares with that
thing when I used Mandrake years
ago. I can't recall the name of that thing that left me with no
keyboard/mouse but I still remember that init thingy. Dang, what was
that thing that did that? Anyway, as bad a taste as that other thing
left, the init thingy is even worse. I still remember the init thingy
10 YEARS later. The other thing was a few years ago.
I bet Alan remembers. I was plenty pissed. That is likely the most
pissed I ever been on this list. If that guy had been in front of me,
I'd be in jail. I got to many trees around here. O-o
Dale
:-) :-)