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From: Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 16:32:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1756899.CQOukoFCf9@lenovo.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9bafdc79-a77f-1b57-6372-b611176164f4@youngman.org.uk>

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On Sunday, 10 May 2020 21:52:54 BST antlists wrote:
> On 10/05/2020 20:11, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> I did find a WD Red 8TB drive.  It costs a good bit more.  It's a good
> >> deal but still costs more.  I'm going to keep looking.  Eventually I'll
> >> either spend the money on the drive or find a really good deal.  My home
> >> directory is at 69% so I got some time left.  Of course, my collection
> >> is still growing. o_O
> > 
> > In theory the 8TB reds are SMR-free.
> 
> I thought I first found it on this list - wasn't it reported that the
> 1TB and 8TB were still CMR but everything between was now SMR? Pretty
> naff since the SMR drives all refuse to add to a raid array, despite
> being advertised as "for NAS and RAID". Under UK law that would be a
> slam dunk RMA as "unfit for purpose".
> 
> Try the "Red Pro", which apparently are still all CMR. To the best of my
> knowledge the Seagate Ironwolves are still SMR-free, and there's also
> the Ironwolf Pros.
> 
> I've got two Ironwolves, but they're 2018-vintage. I think they're Red
> equivalents.
> 
> Cheers,
> Wol

An interesting article mentioning WD Red NAS drives which may actually be SMRs 
and how latency increases when cached writes need to be transferred into SMR 
blocks.

https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/15/shingled-drives-have-non-shingled-zones-for-caching-writes/


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-22 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-10  6:54 [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question Dale
2020-05-10  7:44 ` Michael
2020-05-10  8:02   ` Dale
2020-05-10 13:19     ` Daniel Frey
2020-05-10 18:11       ` Dale
2020-05-10 19:11         ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-10 20:52           ` antlists
2020-05-22 15:32             ` Michael [this message]
2020-05-22 15:43               ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-22 16:15                 ` Dale
2020-05-22 17:10                   ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-22 18:06                     ` Dale
2020-05-22 16:47                 ` antlists
2020-05-22 17:20                   ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-22 18:08                     ` antlists
2020-05-22 18:23                       ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-22 21:40                         ` antlists
2020-05-22 23:31                           ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-23  7:39                             ` Michael
2020-05-23  7:56                               ` Dale
2020-05-23  8:35                               ` Wols Lists
2020-05-23 15:39                               ` David Haller
2020-05-23 21:35                                 ` John Covici
2020-05-24 14:24                                   ` David Haller
2020-05-23 15:36                           ` David Haller
2020-05-24 17:16                             ` Dale
2020-05-10 20:59           ` Dale
2020-06-12  5:45 ` Dale

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