From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QyNDn-0008Ol-Nn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:15:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53E0C21C1EE; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF31721C02A for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2011 12:14:01 -0000 Received: from p5B08225E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.34.94] by mail.gmx.net (mp054) with SMTP; 30 Aug 2011 14:14:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/BunxhPK7BQpDdholqeEgFZGSh1xC+yT+0Uo4AaG 1PK66VCnxnz7e7 From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1732215.xqiVGl2tIE@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <5110656.sT3Fo8umsr@weird> References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <3706961.X6WvuNeq9m@nazgul> <5110656.sT3Fo8umsr@weird> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f3e542a9b643e32217ff406ff4f9b931 Hi, Am Dienstag, 30. August 2011, 13:56:44 schrieb Alex Schuster: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > On Tue 23 August 2011 18:17:17 Stroller did opine thusly: > > > On 23 August 2011, at 07:27, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > [...] > > > > > And I don't really see the point of D-BUS on a server either. > > > > All the services that need to talk to each other already have > > > > working communication paths. > > > > > > Reading that blog entry I found discouraging the idea that dbus > > > might be required on my servers in the future, if systemd becomes > > > popular with distros. > > > > What's your objection to dbus? It gives you a standard message bus, is > > small, light, consumes minimal resources and provides a nice standard > > way to do IPC. Probably easier than reinventing the wheel with named > > pipes and other bits over and over. > > Except for me. dbus-daemon often uses 10-20% of my CPU according to top. Mine idles most of the time, no CPU is used. My computer is running for ~6h now, dbus-daemon used less than 1.5s CPU time. > And > this morning, it was using about 750M of memory. Which is less than kwin's > and Kontact's usage, but still. Strange. Mine uses only ~20MB. > But I think the problem is on my side, I run KDE4 with only 8G of memory, no > wonder I need 1.7G of swap right now. > I have only 4GB of memory, run kde4, swap is not used at all most of the time. There are still ~512MB free with ~1,3GB cached currently. I do have programs running :) firefox with some tabs, kdevelop with a project (~100.000 LOC), kmail, LibreOffice and 3 konsoles, each with some tabs open. I know, I am of no help at all, but I really wonder, why your numbers differ so significantly from mine. > Wonko Michael