From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 026A31581EC for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1843FE082F; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-200162.simplelogin.co (mail-200162.simplelogin.co [176.119.200.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2EFCE081E for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:06:52 +0000 (UTC) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=simplelogin.co; s=arc-20230626; t=1732018010; cv=none; b=kgyWGa/dqIqH4PUsZVZB65ysb6P56IoPdNQslZnQsAUGuC9xBTUAo5tCJdUt13Ema6PxJTIbIS5rsZJHuNOX7pcBZOglKH2snxW5Un+wRKhRdOJN23LGnwCyOEVw6D3+W9pLGneArQhp2uoIhMTn5yr87R05B3JWh7VsII2gcaB9cnAqzcji6wcY5Yag6s1gipAGkTjqPaTMoEMtKQyWas5fhmgsMvD9FmsMjJWpLH7XZW1ICOQNtpQueeVBQg7shcpVAEwmS79I7swGPWSwR8NhUnreh/0xKNqQDtS4auNLQcD31YKLjCGRWj8cAzO+w+ZBqinjBbcpM/AQhCLjuA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=simplelogin.co; s=arc-20230626; t=1732018010; c=relaxed/simple; bh=+a/yVKQ2zNzk2Py1i+2+XJOYXze87Z8cbgRJts9niEk=; h=Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:From:To:References; b=ZVv+dFVwdusK5USQh+ZKY7cn6T99UfNs0crqIFPkrr1eBPJpKAKg4sIUVvKHusoHWvfSg3tt07v3dohgC0ZQiaoLpLJwdIoyynuFymWXjCdUxyd/NhSzQAMK3+FE6UMEaUPN8qHcdEh8ux41sax/FpB03LNIpa1+e6Ebt269Z+hdRuv6rsriEaaRA/23t5ehk3a2TeZpsvhgpqAwMN+vgfjuInqTWNDEp7ZB19OKtDiFr1nLsxtPT4eVYw8ohQd+FfnBRzIX34DYHdF8/Z2NyGDu6RsCv+oOFT+SL441U9+/bcug4glp+VzC8DcnEQHfwTdFSyU5CgTy0hU0qOtEKQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mail.protonmail.ch DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=simplelogin.com; s=dkim; t=1732018010; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=DTvFo6pr1ZlFPsykXszOSAMf1jGgzBwW/+ba5V7p1mc=; b=bPoLb4q/0qDkWc7O+ZY0DxahoBArqMjF9j7H0SiTxL7J/ONx5jo1IoKEl49NT1z09rIyWG /0HHai1zT+GhMyBtEN5ScXe+NN1q9MYeyRTnRewt5XpkBXMKi32CDJFgBQBoY0b0vExMAf GJ1+5/plFVSvsDvpRfsuAcL7PBhuVJU= Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:06:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg In-Reply-To: <673b0721.050a0220.36b06e.cd80@mx.google.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="------61bb39b5680f099cb58ae1b171b1e1c53dfaa9d35f5c3bbc07de40e122bbf2bb"; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: byte.size226@simplelogin.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <173201801028.6.1361252922715100791.499904328@simplelogin.com> References: <173167455567.7.12220560602579978916.495919527@simplelogin.com> <173168238338.7.14071927941459129665.496068843@simplelogin.com> <8e959b08-c465-435b-93d5-9dc20d1dc8cf@gentoo.org> <173185468880.7.18114176355713748062.497932412@simplelogin.com> <673b0721.050a0220.36b06e.cd80@mx.google.com> X-SimpleLogin-Type: Reply X-SimpleLogin-EmailLog-ID: 499904328 X-SimpleLogin-Want-Signing: yes X-Archives-Salt: f62a7117-ccc8-4e4b-a7a1-be031b45c9c5 X-Archives-Hash: 2c57c97fc2a9f46053bacd97f5ad1783 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------61bb39b5680f099cb58ae1b171b1e1c53dfaa9d35f5c3bbc07de40e122bbf2bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:06:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg To: "gentoo-user at lists.gentoo.org" References: <11084ee6-a210-447b-a65c-a3e0a37dc9ad@victorivanov.io> <8e959b08-c465-435b-93d5-9dc20d1dc8cf@gentoo.org> <673b0721.050a0220.36b06e.cd80@mx.google.com> Content-Language: en-GB From: Victor Ivanov In-Reply-To: <673b0721.050a0220.36b06e.cd80@mx.google.com> On 18/11/2024 09:21, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> I also added >> "--usepkg-exclude 'sys-kernel/gentoo-sources virtual/*" to >> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, as was recommended by one of the guides anyway :) > > Hm, I can't see any logic in Gentoo developers wasting electrons and key > strokes to provide at least one "sys-kernel/gentoo-sources" and a ple- > thora of "virtual/*" packages on the binhost and then advising to ex- > clude them from being used. Which guide recommended that? > The in-depth "Binary package guide" [1], section 3.7 "Additional client settings". I guess I misspoke by referring to it as "recommendation" but the example given, which excludes "sys-kernel/gentoo-sources", can be seen as de facto recommendation as it is quite sound. It makes sense as the "sys-kernel/gentoo-sources" package does not have a "binary" package in the sense of a running kernel, which is provided by "sys-kernel/gentoo-kerne l-bin". Emerging gentoo-source simply shows it as an "[ebuild]" which is what I would expect for a package that is supposed to only contain source code. Meanwhile, gentoo-kernel-bin is correctly being pulled from the binhost as "[binary]". As for "virtual/", well they don't really contain anything so there's no binary to provide. I'm not sure if there's anything "[binary]" on the binhost for them as I would struggle to see what that would be other than a label for a given... version/revision? Regards, Victor [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide --------61bb39b5680f099cb58ae1b171b1e1c53dfaa9d35f5c3bbc07de40e122bbf2bb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: ProtonMail wnUEARYIACcFAmc8f1UJEMuXJJI+vh0uFiEE59g+WZi8eZ7/aQNqy5ckkj6+ HS4AAEYAAPwMKjMgMue1n+URYXU1Mfr/x73MtUooNMunZ7MC3tuS0wD+Od5T LIQnfV5z1Qk9p1L0klt/3bnwpUNYgIdQye7bAwU= =tZYt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------61bb39b5680f099cb58ae1b171b1e1c53dfaa9d35f5c3bbc07de40e122bbf2bb--