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From: Mike Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:42:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1720176.jW0GbpkhUk@platypus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E70F448.8060500@gmail.com>

On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 01:36:56 PM Dale wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

> > But that's the thing: we (you and me) don't see the situation the same
> > way. To me, the proposed changes are for the better.
> 
> You are one of very few that feel this way.

You are probably correct that he's one of the relatively few people (along 
with the udev developer, and those few people for whom it will fix their 
problems) who think these changes are a real improvement.

I would estimate that the vast, vast, vast majority of users are those such as 
myslelf, who have no opinion whatsoever, and either will not be affected at all 
by these changes (because they don't separate / and /usr), or will simply 
apply the proposed initramfs solution and move on.

Then there are those relatively few people, such as the handful making up the 
rest of this thread, who think that these changes are a horrible idea and will 
have a severe deterimental affect on their systems.

Not that the relative "size" of the various sides in this debate is really the 
issue, but despite the tone of this and the other thread, I don't think 
there's really a huge, overwhelming outcry against these changes.

--Mike





  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-15 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 254+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-12 15:02 [gentoo-user] udev + /usr Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-12 15:33 ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 17:17   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-12 17:39     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 18:08       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 18:37       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-12 19:00         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 19:35           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-12 19:52             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 20:24             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-13  7:08               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 20:31             ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-13  3:18               ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-13  7:15                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-13  7:01               ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-13 18:15                 ` Dale
2011-09-12 20:16           ` David W Noon
2011-09-12 19:07         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 19:18           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 19:41             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 20:07               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 20:57                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-12 22:00                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 23:31                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-13  7:28                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-13  8:52                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 21:14                 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-13  2:07                   ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-13  7:25                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 19:56         ` Dale
2011-09-13  3:28         ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-13  7:04           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-13 15:21             ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-13 15:38               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-13 15:49               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-13 16:56                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 17:50     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-13 14:40       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-13 14:55         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-13 15:38           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-13 16:14             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-13 20:35               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-13 20:52                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-13 20:57                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-13 21:10                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-13 21:30                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-13 21:53                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-13 22:10                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-13 22:33                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14  5:52                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-14 14:30                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 18:36                                   ` Dale
2011-09-14 18:55                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 23:06                                       ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-15  0:00                                         ` Dale
2011-09-15 20:42                                     ` Mike Edenfield [this message]
2011-09-15 21:01                                       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 21:16                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 21:28                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-15 22:05                                         ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-15 22:26                                           ` Mark Knecht
2011-09-15 22:44                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-16  8:46                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 10:00                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-16 10:54                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 13:03                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-15  7:01                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 13:47                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 14:11                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 14:32                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 14:48                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 14:58                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-15 17:43                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-15 21:25                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 21:34                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-16  8:54                                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-18  7:29                                                   ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-15 15:03                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 15:16                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-15 15:37                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 15:43                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 16:16                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 16:37                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 15:13                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-15 17:59                                               ` Mick
2011-09-15 19:04                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-15 19:17                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-15 21:30                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 21:38                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-16  8:59                                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16  9:29                                                         ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-16 14:57                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-16 15:57                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-16 16:11                                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-16 16:20                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-09-16 17:09                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-16 16:21                                                               ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-17  6:06                                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 18:45                                                               ` Carlos Hendson
2011-09-19  0:58                                                 ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-15 14:57                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-15 15:08                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 15:37                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 18:15                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-15 21:32                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 17:37                                             ` pk
2011-09-15 21:34                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15 20:05                                             ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-15 20:27                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-15 20:53                                                 ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-15 21:05                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-16  9:08                                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16 14:53                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-17  6:45                                                         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-17  7:04                                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-17 14:59                                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-17 12:33                                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-17 14:50                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-17 15:41                                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-17 18:36                                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-17 19:24                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-17 21:13                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-18 19:13                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-17 23:00                                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-17 23:31                                                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-17 23:45                                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-17 23:50                                                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-18  7:37                                                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-18  9:23                                                                         ` [gentoo-user] [OT rant] " pk
2011-09-18 10:03                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-18 10:44                                                                             ` pk
2011-09-18 12:32                                                                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-18 12:56                                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-18 16:55                                                                                   ` pk
2011-09-18 17:41                                                                                     ` Indi
2011-09-18 18:13                                                                                       ` pk
2011-09-18 19:08                                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-18 20:48                                                                                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-20  0:20                                                                                       ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-20 16:50                                                                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-20 17:10                                                                                           ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-20 17:28                                                                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-20 17:33                                                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-09-20 17:54                                                                                               ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-20 17:19                                                                                           ` Thanasis
2011-09-20 17:30                                                                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-21 16:54                                                                                     ` Roman Dobosz
2011-09-18 13:19                                                                                 ` pk
2011-09-18 13:31                                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-18 17:43                                                                                     ` pk
2011-09-18 19:52                                                                                       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-18 21:06                                                                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 19:23                                                                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-19 16:23                                                                                         ` pk
2011-09-19 16:37                                                                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-19 17:42                                                                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 18:02                                                                                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-19 19:20                                                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-19 19:42                                                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-19 20:44                                                                                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 22:13                                                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-19  6:21                                                                                     ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-19 16:28                                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-18 13:37                                                                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-18 13:58                                                                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-18 21:07                                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 17:13                                                                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-18 13:15                                                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-18 13:33                                                                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-22 15:06                                                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Orlitzky
2011-09-17 21:03                                                                 ` pk
2011-09-17 21:25                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-19  8:30                                                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-19 14:22                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-19 14:41                                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-19 16:36                                                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 17:25                                                                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-19 17:43                                                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 17:59                                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-19 18:06                                                                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-19 19:12                                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-19 20:46                                                                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-09-19 21:22                                                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-20  2:00                                                                               ` Indi
2011-09-19 18:28                                                                       ` pk
2011-09-20 10:13                                                                       ` James Broadhead
2011-09-20 23:12                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-20 23:47                                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-21 17:55                                                                             ` Mick
2011-09-17 18:43                                                             ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-18 14:47                                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-18 15:32                                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-15 20:26                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-14  9:06                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14 14:37                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 14:49                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-14 15:36                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14 15:43                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-14 16:05                                 ` Allan Gottlieb
2011-09-14 16:10                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 18:59                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14 22:37                                     ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-14 23:43                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14 23:51                                         ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-14 15:35                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14 16:07                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 16:40                               ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-15  7:37                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-15  7:26                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-14 10:25                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-14 14:10                         ` Mick
2011-09-14 14:19                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-14 14:56                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 14:50                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 14:47                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-14 15:04                         ` Stroller
2011-09-14 21:34                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-14 22:05                             ` Really OT now (Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr) Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-14 22:35                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 18:58                                 ` IDE for C/C++ (Was: " David W Noon
2011-09-15 19:16                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 19:47                                     ` Leonardo Guilherme
2011-09-15 19:59                                       ` Chris Brennan
2011-09-15 20:05                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-15 21:39                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-16  0:22                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-16  9:43                                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-16 12:30                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-16 12:46                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-16 13:10                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-15 21:37                                     ` Alexander Tanyukevich
2011-09-15 21:38                                       ` Alexander Tanyukevich
2011-09-15 20:09                                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Really OT now (Re: " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-09-15 14:10                             ` [gentoo-user] udev + /usr Stroller
2011-09-13 16:24             ` David W Noon
2011-09-13 23:00         ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-13 12:38     ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-13 12:45       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-13 15:09         ` Stroller
2011-09-13 15:46           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-13 23:10         ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-13 12:59       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-14 20:41       ` pk
2011-09-12 20:45   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-12 15:35 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-12 15:59   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-13  7:28     ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-12 16:21   ` Dale
2011-09-12 16:42     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-12 16:52       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 18:26         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-12 18:54           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 16:55       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 20:34       ` Alan McKinnon

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