From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R5hKE-0005J6-KK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:08:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC73121C24F; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E082321C0D8 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxh2 with SMTP id 2so4886884fxh.40 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=RMtSn6aGMsu4XCJB2HNzygwifJ3vppfbh/97+MSkqUw=; b=KD0Z4jCdyiPbc1MDjJLA27Pe+k46FDxgOLRCXSyFI/G1HxS059rxZXoFeMvY1Hz7fV Jnvi+Z6TINbFb5JiciNf9shbGQIr7BPtcxR5IM3Xy16ryywcu8k9XAhXoyhZHw8hNkSQ ZWxUn744SjUzqFde59qyTOZQ85XA8n9s1kVW4= Received: by 10.223.31.151 with SMTP id y23mr5434825fac.48.1316451427260; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localnet (p4FC74389.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.199.67.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l8sm14863422fai.16.2011.09.19.09.57.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:28:05 +0200 Message-ID: <17117280.myeqLEfsR6@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/3.0.4; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1387550.cpixbFhrAe@tux> References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <1387550.cpixbFhrAe@tux> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 2b6cd4839befeccfa103424666d7696e Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:21:08 schrieb Paul Colquhoun: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:31:56 AM Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > > Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern > > parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it. > >=20 > > Many of us actually like the modern features of the kernel, glibc, > > udev, dbus, systemd, pulseaudio, glib, X.org, GStreamer, Gtk+ and > > GNOME (or Qt and KDE). In my case (and I have used Linux for a long= > > time), the whole stack looks full of awsomeness, and stuff just wor= ks > > most of the time. > >=20 > > So yeah, we use more CPU cycles, more memory and more hard drive. F= rom > > my POV, we get more than that in new and improved functionality. >=20 > Just don't forget that the desktop isn't the whole world, and allow t= he > backroom server guys to turn off all the bells, whistles and pretty l= ights > so they can get the best performance from their web servers, mail ser= vers, > DNS servers, etc. there are at least two kinds of servers - those who don't need bells an= d=20 whistles and run happily on an intel atom. And those who really do need bells and whistles. I am sure you wouldn't= want=20 to build such from scratch. Luckily as a desktop linux user I do not have to care about those guys.= And=20 these guys don't have to care about me. Isn't that great? --=20 #163933