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I sync considerably more than that though, and besides, it takes >> me about a week to emerge -e @world. > Just interesting, why you need to sync every day? > And why you need emerge -e, if you can use emerge -auND? > Might be because Michael is a Gentoo developer.  They have to sync a lot as they make changes to the tree.  The two commands do different things.  Using emerge -e calculates rebuilding every package while emerge -auDN only looks for certain updates.  Each can be useful even if not allowed to complete. Dale :-)  :-)  --------------F6553D472CAB9A0C8CAA98E1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
lego12239@yandex.ru wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 03:19:26PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:


If you only sync once a day, then yes, you'll only have to rebuild once
a day. I sync considerably more than that though, and besides, it takes
me about a week to emerge -e @world.

Just interesting, why you need to sync every day?
And why you need emerge -e, if you can use emerge -auND?

Might be because Michael is a Gentoo developer.  They have to sync a lot as they make changes to the tree. 

The two commands do different things.  Using emerge -e calculates rebuilding every package while emerge -auDN only looks for certain updates.  Each can be useful even if not allowed to complete.

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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