From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FRcn4-0001e5-GC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:17:22 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k36MDv4T017626; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:13:57 GMT Received: from flower.jolet.net (cpe-24-27-31-221.austin.res.rr.com [24.27.31.221]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k36M2RdY007769 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:02:27 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flower.jolet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF2D18039 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from flower.jolet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flower.jolet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06306-08-2 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:02:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by flower.jolet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69FB18037 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:02:20 -0500 (CDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) In-Reply-To: <358eca8f0604061458m7165740fie7a6597ae57b5bda@mail.gmail.com> References: <358eca8f0604051510n3eb91622i3c968ecfa05f361f@mail.gmail.com> <200604052211.06903.bulliver@badcomputer.org> <358eca8f0604061436u1746d046kc94acc1d4351215c@mail.gmail.com> <09F518C8-49FE-4164-B3DF-CDCD2F1D9EEE@jolet.net> <358eca8f0604061458m7165740fie7a6597ae57b5bda@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <170CFA56-EF07-49CD-B161-6573D95EBFF3@jolet.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Jolet Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Find IP of proxy Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:02:22 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jolet.net X-Archives-Salt: e489643c-c58c-4ff0-909c-8a1fc21e3ea6 X-Archives-Hash: aa939ee7977e4b10229eea5d270de6e2 On Apr 6, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Mick wrote: > On 06/04/06, John Jolet wrote: >> >> they locked the desktops down, but still let you boot from a cd? how >> moronic. > > He, he, they didn't lock the BIOS. ;-) > >> you're probably dealing with a transparent proxy. the default router >> you see probably has a rule that says "all traffic for port 80 or 443 >> from this subnet, redirect over here". your box would never see that >> router, because by definitions, routes are one-hop only. a >> traceroute might find it, but unless they gave it an ip that resolves >> locally to "transparent proxy" or something, how would you know? >> that's kinda the whole point of transparent proxies. > > Is there perhaps a wildcard traceroute I could do? what i'm saying is, you could traceroute to say yahoo, but which of the hops is the proxy? you have no way of knowing, except it's probaby the next hop after your default router. but even knowing that won't help you avoid it....unless your network guys are completely clueless...that segment should have one and only one way out, that leads to the router that forwards to the proxy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list