[gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing? Geoloc and 
geolocation both switch on geolocation but in different packages.

This duplication caused me much head-scratching and needless extra work in 
trying to install a plasma system without NetworkManager.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[Mike Gilbert]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing? Geoloc and
> geolocation both switch on geolocation but in different packages.
>
> This duplication caused me much head-scratching and needless extra work in
> trying to install a plasma system without NetworkManager.

Two different developers working on separate packages came up with
similar looking USE flags. The GNOME team went with geoloc, while the
KDE team went with geolocation.

Contact the relevant developers or file a bug if you think they should
be consolidated.

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[Rich Freeman]

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing? Geoloc and
>> geolocation both switch on geolocation but in different packages.
>>
>> This duplication caused me much head-scratching and needless extra work in
>> trying to install a plasma system without NetworkManager.
>
> Two different developers working on separate packages came up with
> similar looking USE flags. The GNOME team went with geoloc, while the
> KDE team went with geolocation.
>
> Contact the relevant developers or file a bug if you think they should
> be consolidated.
>

Just to add one note, this happens fairly often, and when people
notice we generally fix it.  New USE flags pop up all the time,
because new ideas in software come up all the time...

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[waltdnes]

> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> Hello list,
> >>
> >> Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing?
> >> Geoloc and geolocation both switch on geolocation but in different
> >> packages.

  Would you believe 4 flags?  geolocation/geoip/geoipv2/geoloc

On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:05:54AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
> Just to add one note, this happens fairly often, and when people
> notice we generally fix it.  New USE flags pop up all the time,
> because new ideas in software come up all the time...

[i3][waltdnes][~] grep ":geoi\|:geol" /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc

dev-qt/qtwebengine:geolocation - Enable physical position determination via dev-qt/qtpositioning
dev-qt/qtwebkit:geolocation - Enable physical position determination via dev-qt/qtpositioning
kde-plasma/plasma-workspace:geolocation - Enables dataengine providing location information
media-gfx/kphotoalbum:geolocation - Add support for kde-apps/marble
net-analyzer/bro:geoip - Enable support for Maxmind's GeoIP library
net-analyzer/pmacct:geoipv2 - Add support for GeoIP2 through dev-libs/libmaxminddb
net-im/empathy:geoloc - Enable geolocation support through app-misc/geoclue
net-irc/inspircd:geoip - Add geoip support for country and city lookup based on IPs
net-libs/webkit-gtk:geoloc - Enable geolocation support through app-misc/geoclue
www-apache/mod_security:geoip - Configure ModSecurity to query the GeoIP database from MaxMind, provided by dev-libs/geoip. This flag only controls the default configuration, as the GeoIP query code is part of ModSecurity's source code.

  Maybe they should be consolidated into one global flag, and moved out
of use.local.desc into use.desc.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 06 Jul 2016 12:11:02 waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >> Hello list,
> > >> 
> > >> Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing?
> > >> Geoloc and geolocation both switch on geolocation but in different
> > >> packages.
> 
>   Would you believe 4 flags?  geolocation/geoip/geoipv2/geoloc

<Boggle...>

> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 11:05:54AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
> 
> > Just to add one note, this happens fairly often, and when people
> > notice we generally fix it.  New USE flags pop up all the time,
> > because new ideas in software come up all the time...
> 
> [i3][waltdnes][~] grep ":geoi\|:geol" /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc
> 
> dev-qt/qtwebengine:geolocation - Enable physical position determination via
> dev-qt/qtpositioning dev-qt/qtwebkit:geolocation - Enable physical position
> determination via dev-qt/qtpositioning
> kde-plasma/plasma-workspace:geolocation - Enables dataengine providing
> location information media-gfx/kphotoalbum:geolocation - Add support for
> kde-apps/marble net-analyzer/bro:geoip - Enable support for Maxmind's GeoIP
> library net-analyzer/pmacct:geoipv2 - Add support for GeoIP2 through
> dev-libs/libmaxminddb net-im/empathy:geoloc - Enable geolocation support
> through app-misc/geoclue net-irc/inspircd:geoip - Add geoip support for
> country and city lookup based on IPs net-libs/webkit-gtk:geoloc - Enable
> geolocation support through app-misc/geoclue www-apache/mod_security:geoip
> - Configure ModSecurity to query the GeoIP database from MaxMind, provided
> by dev-libs/geoip. This flag only controls the default configuration, as
> the GeoIP query code is part of ModSecurity's source code.
> 
>   Maybe they should be consolidated into one global flag, and moved out
> of use.local.desc into use.desc.

Well, you could always suggest that in the bug report...

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[waltdnes]

On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 05:25:01PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote

> 
> Well, you could always suggest that in the bug report...

  Done; see comment 2 in the bug.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 06 Jul 2016 10:31:26 Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> 
wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing? Geoloc
> > and
> > geolocation both switch on geolocation but in different packages.
> > 
> > This duplication caused me much head-scratching and needless extra work in
> > trying to install a plasma system without NetworkManager.
> 
> Two different developers working on separate packages came up with
> similar looking USE flags. The GNOME team went with geoloc, while the
> KDE team went with geolocation.

I think they're more than similar looking: they're functionally identical.

> Contact the relevant developers or file a bug if you think they should
> be consolidated.

Done:	https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588168

-- 
Rgds
Peter