From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Aym-0000dh-7W for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:32:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13094E0E22; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E7FE0E1C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oxusltgw02.schlund.de (oxusltgw02.lxa.perfora.net [172.19.206.4]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MWCYL-1Rs1i50Pfd-00Y5P8; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:30:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:30:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bruce Hill, Jr." To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <1681029049.610710.1331580648044.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1669924605.604523.1331575521916.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: virtual/shadow Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v6.20.0-Rev36 X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:mu/kj5j19RZVXuRbMuPEaDWcnkR0c5xuxwCRZwIrt0O PAOe5gFVaT9sfqwhN/qc6ze/PIr2E2K/kZ3aeE9RpkbXBJZFL9 64nVe6zlfbjrdVFSOnY/OejLKM2nDuon7RCHUTNdkSH3SKn2TU sr/9+ncQ1VhIEcPI94sxmRKXWc8/Ff4RBqMrYcvMaxMrPXh4lD zWkcMQVWHOylYDbTC+6ls0tjeuYPbbS9+V5HwvafdIxUWwsEAf m9YjkL2PyO/1b1myVkZAMYZRPxdScFOzmM/SA9TDTJbTJ7/TcB 9aTOqTJZFgxBrauzXq6FB7WsNNidNHfN+46PTLcSNfh5yc3TV2 qslTta/H9PLOksqq+zGlgjMtCewrlK/KiTCrD7kraZRJr0Gwse LtG0JhtwLx5sQl3oll2z6YkLQkU3hrA5up+iwNdxAs++hmARob lNnMv X-Archives-Salt: 34a94922-b2a8-4dbf-953c-472bd3b00407 X-Archives-Hash: c5dfbabb8203c1ac7382468efc2ab626 On March 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 12/03/12 20:05, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > These virtual apps are irritating me, and the fanboi answers in #gentoo > > are worse. > > > > What is the purpose of virtual/shadow and why would I want it? > > Paul's answers covers it, but I'll give an explanation that is the > reverse of a fanboi answer. > > The reason we need virtuals is because of a shortcoming in portage: lack > of "provides" functionality. RPM packages can tell the package manager > what they provide. For example, RPMs for libav and ffmpeg can both use > "ffmpeg" as their "provides" field. Portage can't do that, so it needs > a new "virtual/ffmpeg" package instead. > > My only experience building software was making scripts to work on my own computer(s), which didn't require checking deps for everybody and his brother's possible setups; so frequently portage offends me with it's dep checking and installing. Thanks for the patience, guys. My mind has not morphed to The Gentoo Way (R) yet and frequently bucks up against this type of pkg mgr. -- Happy Penguin Computers >`) 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ 662-269-2706; 662-491-8613 support at happypenguincomputers dot com http://www.happypenguincomputers.com