From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-127462-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QyXLk-0004hN-Bj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:04:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC46821C170; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.virtyou.com (mx.virtyou.com [94.23.166.77]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8CC21C06A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from weird.localnet (xdsl-84-44-179-199.netcologne.de [84.44.179.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx.virtyou.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2648E4A8015 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:01:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:01:56 +0200 Message-ID: <1664516.PLIo2F4n29@weird> Organization: Wonkology User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.38-pf8; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1732215.xqiVGl2tIE@pc> References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <5110656.sT3Fo8umsr@weird> <1732215.xqiVGl2tIE@pc> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 67c4618202e685c916598fa480c10ad0 Michael Schreckenbauer writes: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, 30. August 2011, 13:56:44 schrieb Alex Schuster: > > Alan McKinnon writes: [...] > > > What's your objection to dbus? It gives you a standard message > > > bus, is small, light, consumes minimal resources and provides a > > > nice standard way to do IPC. Probably easier than reinventing the > > > wheel with named pipes and other bits over and over. > > > > Except for me. dbus-daemon often uses 10-20% of my CPU according to > > top. > Mine idles most of the time, no CPU is used. My computer is running for > ~6h now, dbus-daemon used less than 1.5s CPU time. After a relogin, this is also true here at this moment, dbus-daemon uses about 4% of one of my two cores. After 26 days of uptime, its total CPU time is 1380 minutes, Followed by udisks-daemon with 990 minutes, and then mysqld with 25 minutes. > > And > > this morning, it was using about 750M of memory. Which is less than > > kwin's and Kontact's usage, but still. > > Strange. Mine uses only ~20MB. Right now I have three dbus-daemon processes (one owned by messagebus, two owned by my user), with a total of 4.5M only. The excessive usage of 750M (I noticed this for the first time) probably was a memory leak. Like with KWin, where it always happens after some days of being logged in. > > But I think the problem is on my side, I run KDE4 with only 8G of > > memory, no wonder I need 1.7G of swap right now. > > </rant> > > I have only 4GB of memory, run kde4, swap is not used at all most of the > time. There are still ~512MB free with ~1,3GB cached currently. > I do have programs running :) firefox with some tabs, kdevelop with a > project (~100.000 LOC), kmail, LibreOffice and 3 konsoles, each with some > tabs open. I know, I am of no help at all, but I really wonder, why your > numbers differ so significantly from mine. I run some more applications. 9 Konsole tabs, two Dolphins, a Konqueror as file manager, Amarok, TV-Browser, Kontact, Chromium with 15 tabs, KMyMoney. That's what comes up after login, after a while of being logged in more stuff is running. Yesterday I had a Windows running in vmplayer, that may use 512M. Right now, 4.7G of memory is needed (free -m, -/+ buffers/cache entry). [Later] Whoops, forgot to actually send this mail. Ten hours later I have another dbus-daemon process, owned by root, but memory their usage is the same. 5250M of RAM are needed now altogether. Wonko