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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev;
version 5 - failure :-(
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On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s" <caneko@gmail.=
com>
wrote:
<snip>
>
> "Fringe" programs will not require udev, or it will be optional; but
> the moment a "fringe" program reaches critical mass to become
> "maistream", the probability of it needing udev (directly or
> indirectly) will increase.
>
> I'm willing to bet a beer on that prediction.
>
> Regards.
> --
> Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s
It _sounds_ like your definition of a "fringe" program is one that does not
need udev; but when it becomes "mainstream" it will need udev. If not, you
write us the definition of a "fringe" program and a "mainstream" program.
Excuse me, but that's just incredibly _arrogant_!
I wasn't getting into this ridiculous discussion, but your irresponsible
ranting...
Yes, I dedicate my "Linux life" to killing FUD, and that post of yours is
FUD!
I'm from the South, where FUD is colloquially called bull<manure>. <:-)}
Below are some "mainstream" programs that my every computer on the LAN in
my computer business uses _every_ day which don't require udev:
x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
app-editors/vim
net-misc/dhcpcd
...
The more I think about your arrogance, the more ticked off I get! Here's
the very few packages on my workstation that _do_ require udev:
mingdao@workstation ~ $ equery depends udev
* These packages depend on udev:
media-libs/libcanberra-0.28-r5 (udev ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-160)
media-libs/mesa-7.11.2 (gbm ? sys-fs/udev)
media-video/vlc-1.1.13 (udev ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-142)
net-print/hplip-3.11.10 (acl ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-171[acl])
(acl ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-145[extras])
(kernel_linux ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-114)
sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.88 (>=3Dsys-fs/udev-151-r4)
virtual/dev-manager-0 (sys-fs/udev)
x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2 (udev ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-150)
x11-libs/cairo-1.10.2-r1 (drm ? >=3Dsys-fs/udev-136)
x11-libs/libva-1.0.15 (video_cards_dummy ? sys-fs/udev)
Perhaps it would be ridiculously easy to get rid of udev on this box. But,
that's not the point I'm making here.
It's not so much that udev is evil, to me; but that requiring an initrd is
stupid.
And, it's not so much udev vs. mdev or whatever, but that your attitude
_STINKS_!
Geez...
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