From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Sg46A-0002XO-Sp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:16:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7594E0AB4; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D80E0A60 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkcjk13 with SMTP id jk13so3618363bkc.40 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=B56109u/j5RRRXdkGeZC1bHot5QUYGxvG2Wmi5WIXXY=; b=jyyLKxCoK2vrfG0Ud+rymVam7OHZcNeivoVNj8FX9zuB1Yedc6U9/qqZ6cTZQuwuHR AFafkya8KgUQZmBg6335SFuhJ7QFdvKUH5+diLJBSC8vPEia462ygda0EppqhjN5YEco 0CmdGp+BOnzZ05U3uf5IVfnMDj/Ry1vMAXhUgxCqEjsGcz8KtbXrUOxPuIVqmS5OJdO2 oe4qNpZz+fROzYfyjZBrqr6fyekSY7SsLUDWegX5z7xmdjCjCRSyD0bUAgopa+Q/czq3 9JrUyWzs3AYxgRvBaN2jSaGkRJSzEJyL7tvJ50aE7X5ZpR89z97V89DxaoNlyANS5rp/ XkQQ== Received: by 10.204.133.220 with SMTP id g28mr4608974bkt.54.1339895638827; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (p4FC6054C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.5.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gm18sm14100312bkc.7.2012.06.16.18.13.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:13:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Michael Mol Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 03:13:50 +0200 Message-ID: <1649395.2xNT2S8mXh@energy> User-Agent: KMail/4.9 beta2 (Linux/3.0.30; KDE/4.8.90; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1377575.DyZzJv1phV@energy> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: 4eade9da-1433-47b0-b6ca-973c69285e02 X-Archives-Hash: 2a8a67a6300bd11f17d3ccc93566c8fd Am Samstag, 16. Juni 2012, 19:06:30 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Samstag, 16. Juni 2012, 23:12:48 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > >> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:00:04 +0300 > >> > >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> > On 16/06/12 21:27, walt wrote: > >> > > I guess they figure the desktop will be extinct relatively soon > >> > > and their customer base will vanish unless they capture the > >> > > smartphone market. > >> > > >> > Ah yes, the death of the desktop PC, which is happening for 15 years > >> > now. > >> > > >> > Are we dead yet? > >> > >> Fine comment. > >> > >> Yes indeed, Microsoft's *real* cash cow - millions of corporate > >> desktops running $LATEST_WINDOWS and $LATEST_OFFICE are all going to > >> die out inthe next year. Not. > > > > and in corporate speak that means Windows XP and Office 2003/2007 > > > > because they work, they don't get in the way of doing things, the people > > are trained and nobody needs to smudge around on the screen, > > The most effective way I can imagine for keeping me on-task: Force me > to use a Windows XP workstation. > > I won't be using _any_ personal credentials through the web browser or > any other part of the system. I'm not taking that risk on a > post-support version of Windows. win xp is still supported. have you ever dealt with 'standard office workers'? They want to use the same tools every freaking day. The icons on the same place. The menu items unchanged. The smallest change throws them off balance. Going from one office version to another - like 2000-2003 is a disaster. And while 2007&2010 are superior in every regard these people are helpless if you confront them with such drastic changes. Now imagine an update to vista, win7 or win8 Not everybody is a computer geek. -- #163933