From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R46M9-0004yg-9X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:27:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77EC821C232; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945F421C1F0 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.149] (helo=smtp17.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R46L7-0004jh-24 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:26:29 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp17.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R46L3-0006Jk-Ky for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:26:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863BFD01 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:26:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bEvungS5oFPn for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:26:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE9446C4 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:26:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:26:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1642723.YXnOGT0U97@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <20110914100627.46441459@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R46L3-0006Jk-Ky X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: d822c8087d7aca9df674587397a06a29 On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:37:14 AM Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wr= ote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Neil Bothwick w= rote: > > On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:10:40 -0400, Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. > >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should > >> happen. > >=20 > > You're happy to run an important system service coded by someone wi= th > > less experience than their dislike of the way things are going. >=20 > Someone with "less experience"? As I said before, Kay has been workin= g > in udev for more than eight years. I think he's entitle to receive th= e > acknowledge of his experience. A certain amount of years of experience doesn't mean the person can not= make=20 mistakes. Kay has done a lot of good work with udev, but he should reth= ink his=20 design and breaking a lot of systems just to satisfy his insane desire = to make=20 everyone do whatever he dreamed up is simply wrong. -- Joost