From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R49e9-0001EN-Ug for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:58:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7345521C167; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7BD21C029 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.142] (helo=smtp11.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R49cw-000183-Gf for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:06 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp11.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R49cu-0004Ts-Is for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:04 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6082DDAB for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vh7Wtj72+Gqm for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4CE6635 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:57:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1624573.2MgNrIJX7B@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <2527149.KYXmFa2tUb@pc> References: <1316012516.68539.YahooMailNeo@web112012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2066599.6OXLd59U7I@eve> <2527149.KYXmFa2tUb@pc> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R49cu-0004Ts-Is X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: a0933f6ad09ece81d3f8e2eea5a9f299 On Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:37:12 AM Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > > Yahoo reply broken? I don't know what to say about that... gmail > > > works > > > in > > > the same way, outlook in the same way, thunderbird in the same way. > > > > > > > > In other words, they're all broken. > > A good Email client will allow you to send non-HTML email. Puts "quote" > > marks in front of the lines and add a "bladibla wrote this" or similar > > line. It should also allow you to easily put your reply at the bottom of > > the email. > > > > > > > > GMail has been mentioned a few times as doing things wrongly. I won't > > even mention the many ways in which MS Outlook does things badly and > > Thunderbird wants to be a copy of MS Outlook. > > Afaict, there are quite a few people here using thunderbird. Most replies > are wellformed. Outlook, well... it's not a mail-client after all. Thunderbird works fine, if you're ok to do things Thunderbird wants to do things. The last time I tried it, it decided it wants to have copy of all the email from my IMAP-server locally. If it were a laptop with sufficient disk-space, then it would be ok. But as it's a desktop where I want to have usefull stuff locally. Having a copy of all my email locally on a desktop with gigabit connectivity to the mail-server doesn't really give any benefit. With that behaviour, I never bothered to see how replies would look. -- Joost