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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems
Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 13:14:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1619382.K617jlEHYm@andromeda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5364CD9B.7070906@xunil.at>

On Saturday, May 03, 2014 01:06:03 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 03.05.2014 12:54, schrieb J. Roeleveld:
> > I don't use systemd, but as it's pushed by Redhat and redhat, by default,
> > uses LVM, I would expect that part to work correctly together.
> 
> Yes ... but I still don't fully get what services to enable to get it
> set up correctly. lvmetad yes or no, various systemd-generators ... to
> me it looks a bit confusing. I had a local lvm.service ... and disabled
> it already.
> 
> >> I am still trying to spot the reason. As mentioned in my other reply
> >> currently it seems to also timeout/hang with openrc for me.
> >> 
> >> Right now I downgraded systemd, rebuilt dbus, dracut, procps ...
> > 
> > lvm-utils?
> 
> No such package in portage on my thinkpad ... (using this machine to reply).

My age shows, there used to be one.
Following LVM is installed on my laptop:
===
 [I] sys-fs/lvm2
     Available versions:  2.02.97-r1 2.02.103{tbz2} ~2.02.104 ~2.02.105 
~2.02.105-r1 ~2.02.105-r2 {clvm cman device-mapper-only (+)lvm1 
lvm2create_initrd readline selinux static static-libs +thin +udev}
     Installed versions:  2.02.103{tbz2}(08:11:38 PM 03/05/2014)(lvm1 readline 
thin udev -clvm -cman -lvm2create_initrd -selinux -static -static-libs)

===

Not sure why, but lvm1 use-flag is enabled. (This is a recent fresh 
installation, must be a default somewhere)
Do you have that flag enabled?

> >> From a live-cd I am able to mount /, start the 2 raid-arrays, activate
> >> VGs and LVs ... everything useable.
> > 
> > Ok, to get this straight.
> > You have x amount of disks
> > those are in 2 raid-arrays
> > on top of that, you have LVM...
> 
> one ssd for / and /home ... 2 hdds building 2 mdadm-arrays as PVs, VGs
> on top ... LVs for data/music/VMs/etc

Sounds similar to my old server. Currently I use hardware raid on the server.
My desktops have 2 hdds in raid-0 (striping) with LVM ontop of that. With a 
small /boot partition containing kernel and an initramfs (built with 
genkernel)

> > Can you check that LVM is WAITING for the MDADM arrays to be build?
> 
> I will try to. Disabling it from a non-booting system is a bit
> difficult. Commenting the fstab-lines containing LVs didn't help to skip
> this step so far (seems there is this LVM-systemd-generator called)

Check the sequence of the services starting during boot?
(might need to disable any boot-splash if present)
Does it boot correctly when you physically unplug the drives?

> >> Removing the "real_init" from the kernel line chooses openrc and also
> >> leads to a hanging boot.
> >> 
> >> So a next step seems to comment the LVs from fstab and check if it boots
> >> then.
> > 
> > Or enable interactive boot where you can press "I" to have every service
> > ask if it needs to be started. Then skip LVM.
> > Do you have parallel-boot enabled with OpenRC?
> 
> No.
> 
> > If yes, disable that just to make sure that isn't causing the issue with
> > OpenRC.
> > With systemd, I would recommend checking the dependencies between mdadm
> > and
> > lvm.
> 
> Additional scratching: even editing the grub2-line doesn't reliably
> chose openrc for booting. Oh my ...
> 
> It would help to somehow set a smaller timeout for this start job to at
> least get into emergency mode sooner. Right now it waits forever ("no
> limit").

If you don't need the LVM disks to check the boot-config, try physically 
unplugging them. (either power or data cable should be sufficient)

--
Joost


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-03 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-03 10:12 [gentoo-user] boot problems Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:27 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:33   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:54     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:06       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:14         ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2014-05-03 10:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:49   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:56     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:05       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:12         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:19           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:26             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:37               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 13:46                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 13:48                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 13:59                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 14:29                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 15:08                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 15:10                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 15:07                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:39               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:03                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:09                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:19                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:38                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:43                         ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:08                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:17                   ` Todd Goodman
2014-05-03 12:23                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 13:08                       ` Todd Goodman
2014-05-03 13:24                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:27                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:17                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:43                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:52                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:55                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 13:50                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 13:57                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 16:40                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 16:51                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 17:00                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 17:25                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 17:49                                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:30                                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:33                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:37                                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:47                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 18:51                                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:56                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 19:00                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 19:37                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:35                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 19:33                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 19:38                                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 19:41                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 19:53                                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 20:23                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 20:46                                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  5:09                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-05  6:18                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  6:40                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15  6:21                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15  6:49                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15  7:08                                                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15  9:14                                                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15  9:58                                                             ` covici
2014-05-15 10:00                                                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:05                                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15 18:27                                                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:28                                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:33                                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-16  9:46                                                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 10:04                                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-16 11:06                                                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2014-05-16 11:14                                                                         ` covici
2014-05-16 12:03                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 12:35                                                                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 12:43                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 13:03                                                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 19:40                                                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 12:54                                                                               ` covici
2014-05-16 13:05                                                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 14:01                                                                                   ` covici
2014-05-16 12:13                                                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-05-16 20:01                                                                           ` Marc Joliet
2014-05-16 12:52                                                                         ` [gentoo-user] Re: LVM Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 19:50                                                                         ` [gentoo-user] boot problems Marc Joliet
2014-05-18  0:18                                                                         ` Walter Dnes
2014-05-19 10:54                                                                       ` Tanstaafl
2014-05-16 11:56                                                                     ` Bruce Schultz
2014-05-16 12:10                                                                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 17:09                                                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 17:09                     ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-03 18:40                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 20:50                         ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-03 21:04                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04  8:53                             ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-04  9:15                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 10:49                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 13:07                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 18:40                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 19:03                                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 19:22                                         ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  6:10                                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  6:52                                             ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  7:09                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  7:48                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  9:14                                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 11:25                                                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 12:27                                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 14:12                                                         ` [gentoo-user] Re: Qemu/KVM Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 19:20                                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  7:50                                               ` [gentoo-user] boot problems Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 10:37                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 13:22                                 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-04 18:44                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 12:15                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-04 18:48                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 20:09                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-05  6:14                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  6:54                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  9:02                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-05  8:54                             ` Tom H
2014-05-03 12:52                   ` Tom H
2014-05-03 13:26                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04  1:56 ` Mark Pariente
2014-05-04  9:01   ` Stefan G. Weichinger

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