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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <3082a322-c6f8-31e7-fbc4-823963307b87@gmail.com> <98a5dbe1-5719-f80a-3552-6695fb8f80c1@gmail.com> <045bf641-5fd9-12cc-3723-10d43094f882@gmail.com> From: Dale Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: <15d45249-5f60-04d1-cfc9-356cefc82b14@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:17:39 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <045bf641-5fd9-12cc-3723-10d43094f882@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------13B076144FA35E22375DC0AA" X-Archives-Salt: b6d2e1ac-0b2e-4e46-8669-ac70dd003052 X-Archives-Hash: 758ff52b6eb74a32b9d1d5ed4f21652f This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------13B076144FA35E22375DC0AA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Victor Ivanov wrote: > On 10/06/2020 21:52, Dale wrote: >> I've got that in dmcrypt and fstab as the wiki says.  That part works.  >> It's the KDE part that isn't working correctly.  However, I did do one >> thing different, I put users instead of user.  Plural not singular.  >> Should users work the same as user? > This makes little sense. The main difference between user and users is > that the former only allows the user who mounted the filesystem (or > root) to unmount the filesystem, whereas the latter (plural) relaxes > this rule and allows any user to unmount the filesystem. Then maybe that isn't the issue.  I didn't think it would matter but did want to mention it.  Just in case.  ;-)  > > On 10/06/2020 21:52, Dale wrote: >> I wonder, other distros have crypttab file instead of dmcrypt.  I wonder >> if I created a crypttab file if that would help KDE even if Gentoo >> ignores it or doesn't know it exists. > Doubtful. As far as I'm aware "/etc/crypttab" is for systems that use > that atrocity called systemd. So unless you have your system set up to > use systemd, "/etc/conf.d/dmcrypt" is the correct one to use. No systemd here.  Whew!! > On 10/06/2020 21:52, Dale wrote:  >> It sounds like the Device Notifier is just not set up or designed to do >> what I want to do. > Unfortunately, it's quite basic indeed. I still, however, think you can > achieve what you intend to with fstab. I personally tested what I wrote > in my previous email and, apart from the usual false error message, it > mounts it exactly where I've described in /etc/fstab. I can also eject > it via Device Notifier. Could it be that there's something else going on > in your case? > > - Victor > My dmcrypt entry: ## 3TB private drive external target='private' source=UUID='107be33c-b31c-44b8-b4e7-400ee19fb440' I think I got that right but I'm me.  lol  This is my fstab entry: UUID="7f0cf585-57c8-4a50-808b-987fc13ceee0" /home/dale/Desktop/Videos/Private  ext4 defaults,users 0 0 Right now I stuck it under Videos but it's because that was where I was when I started.  Later on, I'll move it to be under Documents.  I'll worry about moving it later on.  You notice anything off about that?  I make a error somewhere?  Miss a option maybe? Thanks. Dale :-)  :-)  --------------13B076144FA35E22375DC0AA Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Victor Ivanov wrote:
On 10/06/2020 21:52, Dale wrote:

I've got that in dmcrypt and fstab as the wiki says.  That part works. 
It's the KDE part that isn't working correctly.  However, I did do one
thing different, I put users instead of user.  Plural not singular. 
Should users work the same as user?

This makes little sense. The main difference between user and users is
that the former only allows the user who mounted the filesystem (or
root) to unmount the filesystem, whereas the latter (plural) relaxes
this rule and allows any user to unmount the filesystem.


Then maybe that isn't the issue.  I didn't think it would matter but did want to mention it.  Just in case.  ;-)  



On 10/06/2020 21:52, Dale wrote:

I wonder, other distros have crypttab file instead of dmcrypt.  I wonder
if I created a crypttab file if that would help KDE even if Gentoo
ignores it or doesn't know it exists.

Doubtful. As far as I'm aware "/etc/crypttab" is for systems that use
that atrocity called systemd. So unless you have your system set up to
use systemd, "/etc/conf.d/dmcrypt" is the correct one to use.

No systemd here.  Whew!! 


On 10/06/2020 21:52, Dale wrote: 

It sounds like the Device Notifier is just not set up or designed to do
what I want to do.

Unfortunately, it's quite basic indeed. I still, however, think you can
achieve what you intend to with fstab. I personally tested what I wrote
in my previous email and, apart from the usual false error message, it
mounts it exactly where I've described in /etc/fstab. I can also eject
it via Device Notifier. Could it be that there's something else going on
in your case?

- Victor


My dmcrypt entry:


## 3TB private drive external
target='private'
source=UUID='107be33c-b31c-44b8-b4e7-400ee19fb440'


I think I got that right but I'm me.  lol  This is my fstab entry:


UUID="7f0cf585-57c8-4a50-808b-987fc13ceee0" /home/dale/Desktop/Videos/Private  ext4 defaults,users 0 0


Right now I stuck it under Videos but it's because that was where I was when I started.  Later on, I'll move it to be under Documents.  I'll worry about moving it later on. 

You notice anything off about that?  I make a error somewhere?  Miss a option maybe?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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