From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96F31381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1837AE0A00; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0200.smtp25.com (mail0200.smtp25.com [174.37.170.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09FE8E09AF for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ccs.covici.com (s-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.91.90]) by s-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r6OHSCTT008399 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:28:13 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6OHSCbQ015653 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:28:12 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch? In-reply-to: References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <51EE181D.5080505@gentoo.org> Comments: In-reply-to =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FUTF-8=3FB=3FQ2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWY?= =?us-ascii?Q?Wxkw6lz=3F=3D?= message dated "Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:11:01 -0500." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:28:12 -0400 Message-ID: <15652.1374686892@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: s-out-001.smtp25.com-r6OHSCTT008399 X-Archives-Salt: a1829aad-ff2b-4ee0-943d-4b7d025394e8 X-Archives-Hash: 8f83520ec5f9c02cfaf51d762bace379 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Andr=C3=A1s Cs=C3=A1nyi wrote: > > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>> > >>> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > >>>> > >>>> This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind > >>>> ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally > >>>> intended. > >>> > >>> > >>> not possible, logind since systemd >=3D 205 requires systemd and won't > >>> work on openrc, upstart, and such > >>> as in, the idea of using logind outside of systemd is a dead end > >>> > >>> so keeping ConsoleKit in portage for long as it works for long as we > >>> need openrc for Linux based systems > >>> and when it no longer works, the contingency plan is to ship vendor > >>> based polkit files that possibly either restore 'plugdev' group or > >>> provide similar groups to ArchLinux like 'network', 'storage', 'power' > >>> to split up the old 'plugdev' > >> > >> > >> Wouldn't it be better to switch to systemd instead? > > > > Is there a migration guide? According to google there is no any. (or I > > haven't spend enough time to search) >=20 > You have the wiki: >=20 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd >=20 > I believe it covers the most important aspects of the migration. Also, > it is so much easier now; we even have a stable version on systemd in > the tree. Couldn't emerge systemd its blocked by udev -- did a google search, but found some very confusing posts to do with static-libs. --=20 Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com