From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-173467-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FB44138330 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E442E0BA7; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E225BE0BA7 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:28:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1474748885; bh=YEKKt5fPNXHiiiAYhXSioRSjjJ3VtDxWdSxT76IxBWw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=S3rs3KYe0MK1w2Vkx9bKZX1BZEgPt33lckb5KD9ND/a2372NEq1ksHtfLOf2/JhiDQZaxXhVfYzMI4rkWTcXmb4HL6PUDEcIqs3zcb2LnyIXB1URlOjRAJI6KFHeezDnZ/AL0juGqMshYr9tVcHcVUWn8feYuUy+BONi1aqDvuPIM//TuRnpOX6o1mCwmLIdaHWyTlCY9XyaDS/mHXLMBvQIr20FiJSrujrR04UAj12f+u3S/cOmKZZVaHa/u9Br3XxCpv6mVHHj04+hHQT5ol/xlGHFdFltxp8TNO0msA/7pHRq/vkm1Kt8EIhRD5y9PocQscAz3ssMbGyHr3oamQ== Received: from [98.139.170.182] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2016 20:28:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2016 20:28:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2016 20:28:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 370061.98953.bm@omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: ZYEYXPYVM1ll0MwXzqoRHOVXH5sT15J6Uw6L1x_kgUmllvqO9xOdpm.9pQ76jLa qi6SNV6lE_LeP2qj82IJkMkL1bsK05jVmPXHD2LEZYjGJN7.8q2JrOyXZphN59KaV.rguK2gVa7c FRnGetDJ040ikJWxoGZzAjRlGgUYCXM68Nr8belRuasQ7wzuMbLPP8vvrXW1C3pLrihSTcuLM4Ii Fs1mdCRGiGhf6QjGApNxQ5KvARV6gLKIrKaV.WRYBsClxOwXrR9wRmw2IuAo2bqIFYW2fq7dPblI hFv_7HnukI3zThoQ58kAc32qMVwMOuUmVvASV0DwFkpwZaGdsWsrDA5KCdiE.DD1JUVsQH4JVjVw fAaA5jnevVWoMnVSna0_nYPx_P5ZdWbXxZ_cx7EtdrCHO5Kwd9WupfF3ZOAfXTTdjydSADXRbp.b lXHR0APtAOyWKoWa.VTV8pulXILaFa22nz1uMouJeEmGHB3evzzoN8OGC87F4msAZZ1Q5O3Q9sAh 1CzlcuuSX6pi_bePUmXPAQM1upKst6ok_TqglkRzdmg-- Received: from jws10671.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:28:04 +0000; 1474748884.998 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:28:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher Robinson <chrisrobinson@rocketmail.com> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> Message-ID: <1540740994.4100933.1474748884633@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <1540740994.4100933.1474748884633.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Archives-Salt: 1ba4e8c6-233e-4a27-8217-67092b537d06 X-Archives-Hash: 3e93f0b3f2c139ff8f7c39752254fe9d Dale, Your assumption that I missed a section is entirely offbase and does not re= spond to my original question. I could say that you are missing the point of what I = asked. For those who have had helpful suggestions I give thanks. -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 9/24/16, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:17 PM =20 Again, top posting to follow his lead.=20 =20 It's not a fight.=C2=A0 It's just called being prepared.=C2=A0 Missing a section isn't going to give you a proper install.=C2=A0 It's one reason I always recommend a person read the docs several times.=C2=A0 The reason for that, if something doesn't seem right, you will more than likely notice it and go back and figure out what was missed.=C2=A0 The fact that I don't see a all-in-one page guide isn't helping you any.=C2=A0 If it was on one page, even as a option for those who don't like it, then you likely wouldn't have missed a section.=C2=A0 Just start at the top and work your way down.=20 Maybe after this, someone will see the need for at least some of us to have it all in one long page.=C2=A0 Maybe Rich can whisper in someone's ear.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I guess printing it and putting it in order would work but that means a lot of typing when a lot of times, a copy and paste will be easier.=20 =20 Thing is, it's hard to tell what was wrong because no one knew you missed a section, I suspect Neil did sort of figure that to be the case tho which is why he replied with what he did.=C2=A0 What we do know, if you follow the guide, you should get a bootable system.=C2=A0 It may not be 100% perfect but it should boot at least.=C2=A0 Gentoo has some excellent docs, especially the install part.=C2=A0 Unless you have some pretty odd hardware, it should work. =20 =20 One thing I learned the hard way.=C2=A0 Pretty much no matter what you may mess up, you can chroot in and go back and fix it. Just boot using whatever media you selected, follow the mount and chroot section and then correct whatever is wrong.=C2=A0 You do NOT have to start from scratch most of the time.=C2=A0 You'd have to have made a boo boo in the very early stages to end up doing that.=20 =20 I'm just hoping you can fix this easily and finish your install.=C2=A0 :-) =20 Dale =20 :-)=C2=A0 :-)=20 =20 =20 Christopher Robinson wrote: > I don't really want to get into a fight, but some of the replies-not Rich's- are missing > the point I am raising. To then disparage me is unworthy for a support list. > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 9/24/16, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: > >=C2=A0 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install >=C2=A0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >=C2=A0 Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 3:44 PM >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 Rich Freeman wrote: >=C2=A0 > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Dale >=C2=A0 <rdalek1967@gmail.com> >=C2=A0 wrote: >=C2=A0 >> Actually, he is correct. >=C2=A0 > Actually, he isn't, which is hard to >=C2=A0 demonstrate since everybody is top-posting. >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 Actually he is and your reply >=C2=A0 supports that point.=C2=A0 Also, I top posted >=C2=A0 because he did and I posted that reasoning.=20 >=C2=A0 I'm sure he will get around >=C2=A0 to bottom >=C2=A0 posting when he gets his install done.=C2=A0 Who knows what he >=C2=A0 is >=C2=A0 using at the moment.=20 >=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0 >> On Saturday, >=C2=A0 September 24, 2016 9:47 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> >=C2=A0 >> wrote: >=C2=A0 >> >=C2=A0 >> You need to read chapter 1 of the >=C2=A0 Gentoo handbook from start to finish, >=C2=A0 >> then read it again. >=C2=A0 > The handbook doesn't have chapters.=20 >=C2=A0 The step that was missed was well >=C2=A0 > into >=C2=A0 the process. >=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 If he was reading and following the install >=C2=A0 guide, how did he do that >=C2=A0 when he missed a >=C2=A0 whole section?=C2=A0 Obviously, he wasn't following it >=C2=A0 since >=C2=A0 he missed the section.=C2=A0 When I did my >=C2=A0 first install well over a decade >=C2=A0 ago, I read >=C2=A0 that thing at least three of four times to even see if I >=C2=A0 wanted to try Gentoo.=C2=A0 During my last install >=C2=A0 on my new rig a few years >=C2=A0 ago, I read it >=C2=A0 twice even tho it was mostly the same.=C2=A0 Installing >=C2=A0 Gentoo >=C2=A0 isn't easy but it is very hard >=C2=A0 when you are not familiar enough with the >=C2=A0 process to even realize you missed a whole >=C2=A0 section.=C2=A0 If you follow the >=C2=A0 guide and >=C2=A0 don't miss anything, it should work.=C2=A0 The only major >=C2=A0 set back >=C2=A0 you can have is a badly configured >=C2=A0 kernel that won't complete the boot >=C2=A0 process.=C2=A0 I might add, this is also why I >=C2=A0 prefer a one page guide. =20 >=C2=A0 Start at the top >=C2=A0 and work your way to the bottom.=C2=A0 Very little chance of >=C2=A0 missing anything then.=20 >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 Now that he knows he missed a section, maybe he >=C2=A0 can chroot into it, do >=C2=A0 that section and >=C2=A0 finish the install.=C2=A0 That is unless his mobo blows out.=20 >=C2=A0 :/ >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 Dale >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 :-)=20 >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0=20 > > =20 =20 =20