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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800
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=E5=9C=A8 2012=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E6=97=A5=
 07:22:41=EF=BC=8CBruce Hill =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:=

> > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't wa=
nt is
> > forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a valid react=
ion. A
> > lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or systemd. Now it is =
forced
> > on everybody.
> >=20
> > When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course, one =
could
> > use udev without [systemd] in the future.
> >=20
> > Now they are talking about making udev systemd only.

obsolutly nonsense. what they remove , is the ability to build udev=20
seperately. udev can still be used without systemd.

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