[gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Andrew Lowe]

Hi all,
    Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
"Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.

	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and Gwenview,
but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
probably display this behaviour as well.

	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,

		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Dale]

Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
>     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>
> 	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and Gwenview,
> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
> probably display this behaviour as well.
>
> 	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>
> 		Andrew
>
>


Well, if it is a missing USE flag or something, I'm missing it to and
have been for a LONG time now.  Mine has a lot of nothingness to it too. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Paul Klos]

Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
> Hi all,
>     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
> 
> 	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and 
> Gwenview,
> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
> probably display this behaviour as well.
> 
> 	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
> 
> 		Andrew
> 
Hi Andrew,

If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I 
do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of 
nothingness.

For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the 
source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size, 
width, height and the date it was last modified.

Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered, 
which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.

As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no 
idea.

Paul

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Mick]

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On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> >     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
> > 
> > already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
> > heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
> > "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
> > a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
> > Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
> > 
> > 	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
> > 
> > moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
> > in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
> > disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
> > Gwenview,
> > but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
> > probably display this behaviour as well.
> > 
> > 	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
> > 	
> > 		Andrew
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
> nothingness.
> 
> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
> width, height and the date it was last modified.
> 
> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
> 
> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
> idea.
> 
> Paul

From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.

Have you tried this?

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Andrew Lowe]

On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>
>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>
>>> 	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
>>>
>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>> Gwenview,
>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>
>>> 	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>> 	
>>> 		Andrew
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>
>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>
>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>> idea.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> 
> Have you tried this?
> 

	No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
be view or preview???

	Thanks for the suggestion,

		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Dale]

Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
>>
>> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
>> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
>> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>>
>> Have you tried this?
>>
> 	No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
> referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
> application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
> be view or preview???
>
> 	Thanks for the suggestion,
>
> 		Andrew
>
> .
>


In Konqueror, Settings up top, Configure Konqueror.  In the new window,
expand File Management, click General then click the tab Previews.  I
have videos, images etc checked here.  I can see previews of the files
while navigating around so I knew this was set already, but checked to
make sure there wasn't something new here.

You're not alone tho.  I have the same as you.  Weird. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Paul Klos]

Op zondag 7 juni 2015 08:02:04 schreef Dale:
> Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
> >>
> >> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
> >> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
> >> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> >>
> >> Have you tried this?
> >>
> > 	No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
> > referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
> > application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
> > be view or preview???
> >
> > 	Thanks for the suggestion,
> >
> > 		Andrew
> >
> > .
> >
> 
> 
> In Konqueror, Settings up top, Configure Konqueror.  In the new window,
> expand File Management, click General then click the tab Previews.  I
> have videos, images etc checked here.  I can see previews of the files
> while navigating around so I knew this was set already, but checked to
> make sure there wasn't something new here.
> 
> You're not alone tho.  I have the same as you.  Weird. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> 
Well, nothing substantial comes to mind, but I have a few suggestions/questions to investigate.

Have you tried with another, or a new, user?

Do you use a custom theme? If so, you could switch it back and see if that makes any difference/

Is your disk full?

Are both directories local, or are you copying to or from a remote directory?

Paul

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Dale]

Paul Klos wrote:
> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 08:02:04 schreef Dale:
>> Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
>>>> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
>>>> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried this?
>>>>
>>> 	No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
>>> referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
>>> application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
>>> be view or preview???
>>>
>>> 	Thanks for the suggestion,
>>>
>>> 		Andrew
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>
>> In Konqueror, Settings up top, Configure Konqueror.  In the new window,
>> expand File Management, click General then click the tab Previews.  I
>> have videos, images etc checked here.  I can see previews of the files
>> while navigating around so I knew this was set already, but checked to
>> make sure there wasn't something new here.
>>
>> You're not alone tho.  I have the same as you.  Weird. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
>>
> Well, nothing substantial comes to mind, but I have a few suggestions/questions to investigate.
>
> Have you tried with another, or a new, user?
>
> Do you use a custom theme? If so, you could switch it back and see if that makes any difference/
>
> Is your disk full?
>
> Are both directories local, or are you copying to or from a remote directory?
>
> Paul
>
>


It appears that changing the kdelibs USE flags fixed this.  I would
never have guessed that the USE flag was needed. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Mick]

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On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:51:40 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
 
> > From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if
> > you have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads
> > of thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> > 
> > Have you tried this?
> 
> 	No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
> referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
> application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
> be view or preview???
> 
> 	Thanks for the suggestion,
> 
> 		Andrew

In Dolphin or Konqueror, go to the main menu and under View you will see an 
entry called Preview.  Click on it to select it.  I don't know if this will 
fix your problem, but it is something to try.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>
>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>
>>>     My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example,
if I'm
>>>
>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>> Gwenview,
>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>
>>>     Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>>    
>>>         Andrew
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>
>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>
>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>> idea.
>>
>> Paul
>
> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only
if you
> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of
> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>
> Have you tried this?
>

I have the same problem as the OP and I do have it set to show
previews.  I always figured this was a bug and would be fixed at some
point but it sure has been a while since it worked.

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Alan McKinnon]

On 07/06/2015 14:24, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>
>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>
>>> 	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
>>>
>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>> Gwenview,
>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>
>>> 	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>> 	
>>> 		Andrew
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>> nothingness.
>>
>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>
>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>
>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>> idea.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
> 
> Have you tried this?
> 


I have that enabled, but previews still do not show up in the "file
already exists" dialog. They do however show up in dolphin's sidebar
panel (activated with F11)

So there is something else here that also plays a role

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Andrew Lowe]

On 06/07/2015 10:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 07/06/2015 14:24, Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 13:03:05 Paul Klos wrote:
>>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 17:42:37 schreef Andrew Lowe:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>     Under KDE, which I use, when you go to move/copy a file and it
>>>>
>>>> already exists in the destination, you get a dialogue pop up with a
>>>> heading of "File already exists", it says in the dialogue "Source" and
>>>> "Destination" with the respective paths underneath then underneath that
>>>> a big expanse of nothing then below that some stuff including the
>>>> Overwrite/Skip/Cancel buttons.
>>>>
>>>> 	My question relate to the expanse of nothingness. For example, if I'm
>>>>
>>>> moving/copying image files, should there be a preview of the two files
>>>> in this nothingness? Is there some USE flag I've stuffed up that has
>>>> disabled this. This happens, in my experience with Dolphin and
>>>> Gwenview,
>>>> but I'm assuming they both use a standard Qt/KDE dialogue so others
>>>> probably display this behaviour as well.
>>>>
>>>> 	Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
>>>> 	
>>>> 		Andrew
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> If I try to copy a file that already exists in the destination folder, I
>>> do indeed get preview images and some metadata, not a vast expanse of
>>> nothingness.
>>>
>>> For example, when copying a jpg  the dialog shows thumbnails of the
>>> source and the destination, and underneath each image the type, size,
>>> width, height and the date it was last modified.
>>>
>>> Below that is an input field where an alternative name can be entered,
>>> which presumably you still have. Finally there are the buttons.
>>>
>>> As for what triggers the presence/absence of the preview, I have no
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if you 
>> have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
>> thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.
>>
>> Have you tried this?
>>
> 
> 
> I have that enabled, but previews still do not show up in the "file
> already exists" dialog. They do however show up in dolphin's sidebar
> panel (activated with F11)
> 
> So there is something else here that also plays a role
> 
Same here.

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Daniel Frey]

On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 10:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> So there is something else here that also plays a role
>>
> Same here.
> 

Hi all,

I may have a solution for you. I noticed this behaviour some time back,
except I had two workstations - one worked, and one didn't. So I went to
compare the two machines (which took a very long time) and discovered
kdelibs is built differently on the one that shows the previews. It
appears the default USE flags do not enable this functionality.

That overwrite dialog is in kdelibs and it looks like it depends on
nepomuk (semantic desktop support) that is marked deprecated.

I enabled a few use flags trying to correct the problem, but I'm pretty
sure it's the nepomuk USE flag that fixed it.

# emerge -pv kdelibs

[ebuild   R    ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="acl
alsa bzip2 crypt fam handbook jpeg2k lzma nepomuk nls openexr opengl
(policykit) spell ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf (-altivec) (-aqua)
-debug -doc -kerberos {-test}" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse sse2 -3dnow" 0 KiB

This appears to pull:

[IP-] [  ] kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14
[IP-] [  ] kde-base/nepomuk-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14

in to be built, and nepomuk-core has a ffmpeg dependency:

[ebuild   R    ] kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="exif
ffmpeg migrator pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -taglib" 0 KiB

I'm currently building kdelibs with the nepomuk USE-flag on my other PC
(the one that does not work), will report back if it's successful.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Dale]

Daniel Frey wrote:
> Hi all, I may have a solution for you. I noticed this behaviour some
> time back, except I had two workstations - one worked, and one didn't.
> So I went to compare the two machines (which took a very long time)
> and discovered kdelibs is built differently on the one that shows the
> previews. It appears the default USE flags do not enable this
> functionality. That overwrite dialog is in kdelibs and it looks like
> it depends on nepomuk (semantic desktop support) that is marked
> deprecated. I enabled a few use flags trying to correct the problem,
> but I'm pretty sure it's the nepomuk USE flag that fixed it. # emerge
> -pv kdelibs [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo
> USE="acl alsa bzip2 crypt fam handbook jpeg2k lzma nepomuk nls openexr
> opengl (policykit) spell ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf (-altivec)
> (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos {-test}" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse sse2
> -3dnow" 0 KiB This appears to pull: [IP-] [ ]
> kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14 [IP-] [ ]
> kde-base/nepomuk-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14 in to be built, and
> nepomuk-core has a ffmpeg dependency: [ebuild R ]
> kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE="exif ffmpeg migrator
> pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -taglib" 0 KiB I'm currently building kdelibs
> with the nepomuk USE-flag on my other PC (the one that does not work),
> will report back if it's successful. Dan 

This worked for me.  All this time I thought it was a bug or something. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Daniel Frey]

On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Same here.
> 

Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
did indeed fix it.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Paul Klos]

Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Same here.
> > 
> 
> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
> did indeed fix it.
> 
> Dan
> 
Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Daniel Frey]

On 06/07/2015 10:30 AM, Paul Klos wrote:
> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> Same here.
>>>
>>
>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>> did indeed fix it.
>>
>> Dan
>>
> Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.
> 

I'm curious to know why nepomuk is marked deprecated when it's still in
use. It doesn't appear there's a replacement for this functionality.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Andrew Lowe]

On 06/08/2015 02:23 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 10:30 AM, Paul Klos wrote:
>> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
>>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>>> Same here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>>> did indeed fix it.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>> Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.
>>
> 
> I'm curious to know why nepomuk is marked deprecated when it's still in
> use. It doesn't appear there's a replacement for this functionality.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 

	Interesting observation. Long story way, but I hate the whole
nepomuk/akonadi stuff and disable it where I can. Looking at kdelibs
shows that, yes it is disabled. This just begs the question, why is the
ability to show two thumbnails side by side dependant on a file indexer?

	As to nepomuk being deprecated,, according to its website:

https://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk

it's on the way out and something called Baloo in the new greatest
thing/debacle since sliced bread.

	I might have a look at kdelibs as to why there is this dependency, but
it looks like I'm going to have to live without my preview pictures....

	Thanks to all who offered ideas etc,
		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Paul Klos]

Op maandag 8 juni 2015 14:40:28 schreef Andrew Lowe:
> On 06/08/2015 02:23 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
> > On 06/07/2015 10:30 AM, Paul Klos wrote:
> >> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
> >>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> >>>> Same here.
> >>> 
> >>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
> >>> did indeed fix it.
> >>> 
> >>> Dan
> >> 
> >> Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.
> > 
> > I'm curious to know why nepomuk is marked deprecated when it's still in
> > use. It doesn't appear there's a replacement for this functionality.
> > 
> > Dan
> 
> 	Interesting observation. Long story way, but I hate the whole
> nepomuk/akonadi stuff and disable it where I can. Looking at kdelibs
> shows that, yes it is disabled. This just begs the question, why is the
> ability to show two thumbnails side by side dependant on a file indexer?
> 
> 	As to nepomuk being deprecated,, according to its website:
> 
> https://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk
> 
> it's on the way out and something called Baloo in the new greatest
> thing/debacle since sliced bread.
> 
> 	I might have a look at kdelibs as to why there is this dependency, but
> it looks like I'm going to have to live without my preview pictures....
> 
> 	Thanks to all who offered ideas etc,
> 		Andrew

I recently deleted the complete nepomuk cache from my kde profile. The files 
hadn't been touched since November last year. I have had the nepomuk USE flag 
enabled for a long time, and I hadn't even noticed that the nefarious nepomuk 
implementation had been replaced with Baloo.

Baloo seems to do what you might expect from a file indexer: it runs in the 
background and silently indexes you files. You wouldn't even know it's there. 
Actually I *didn't* notice it was there :-).

I think the nepomuk use flag has become a bit of a misnomer by now, because 
there is no more actual "nepomuk" to pull in.

Maybe it's worth a try to enable it again, and enjoy these pretty previews.

Paul

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Mick]

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On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Same here.
> 
> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
> did indeed fix it.
> 
> Dan

Did you set it globally or only for some package, e.g. kdelibs?

(I can't tell on my system because I don't have the full KDE installed).

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Daniel Frey]

On 06/07/2015 10:31 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> Same here.
>>
>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>> did indeed fix it.
>>
>> Dan
> 
> Did you set it globally or only for some package, e.g. kdelibs?
> 
> (I can't tell on my system because I don't have the full KDE installed).
> 

I only set the USE-flag on kdelibs on the machine that didn't work, and
it works now. I did an `emerge -pvuDN world` after setting the flag, and
there were five packages rebuilt (some new - two nepomik packages for
sure - but I don't remember fully.)

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

[Dale]

Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/07/2015 10:31 AM, Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:17:24 Daniel Frey wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>>> Same here.
>>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
>>> did indeed fix it.
>>>
>>> Dan
>> Did you set it globally or only for some package, e.g. kdelibs?
>>
>> (I can't tell on my system because I don't have the full KDE installed).
>>
> I only set the USE-flag on kdelibs on the machine that didn't work, and
> it works now. I did an `emerge -pvuDN world` after setting the flag, and
> there were five packages rebuilt (some new - two nepomik packages for
> sure - but I don't remember fully.)
>
> Dan
>
>


Mine looks something like this.

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N     ] dev-libs/xapian-1.2.19::gentoo  USE="brass chert
inmemory -doc -static-libs" CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse sse2" 3,101 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] dev-libs/shared-desktop-ontologies-0.11.0::gentoo 
3,875 KiB
[ebuild     U ~] kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.9:4/4.14::gentoo
[4.14.6-r1:4/4.14::gentoo] USE="alsa bzip2 crypt fam handbook jpeg2k
lzma nepomuk* nls opengl (policykit) spell ssl udev udisks upower
zeroconf -acl (-altivec) (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos -openexr {-test}"
CPU_FLAGS_X86="3dnow mmx sse sse2" 11,374 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/kfilemetadata-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="exif
ffmpeg pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -mobi -taglib" 36 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="(-aqua)
-debug -minimal" 143 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="exif
ffmpeg migrator pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -taglib" 375 KiB
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/nepomuk-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo 
USE="(-aqua) -debug" 48 KiB
[ebuild     U ~] kde-apps/kopete-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo
[4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo] USE="addbookmarks autoreplace contactnotes
handbook highlight history nowlistening pipes privacy ssl statistics
texteffect translator urlpicpreview xmpp yahoo zeroconf (-aqua) -debug
-gadu -groupwise -jingle -latex -meanwhile -oscar -otr -skype -sms
-testbed -v4l -webpresence -winpopup" 0 KiB
[ebuild     U ~] kde-apps/kdebase-data-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo
[4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo] USE="wallpapers (-aqua)" 0 KiB
 

I also had to enable the crypt USE flag for some reason, not related to
this I think. 

Now to let it compile away for a bit while I give my grass a hair cut.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)