From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBCfJ-0006NY-LP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:36:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DDB621C291; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58EAD21C2D3 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Oct 2011 21:33:37 -0000 Received: from p5B084FCE.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.79.206] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 04 Oct 2011 23:33:37 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/l851PBJjlg5cZCNxAeGVDD/XSTqnZQb61Kb0nqr iDxJc12yj7rmwU From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:33:34 +0200 Message-ID: <15152608.IZfVaM36bk@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f1bf5fca43be9253c0fbcdc78b62ec2b On Tuesday, 4. October 2011 14:14:24 Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards =20 wrote: > > On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Grant Edwards =20 wrote: > >>> On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: > >>>>>> That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you= > >>>>>> have > >>>>>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart), > >>>>>=20 > >>>>> I'm curious: what if you don't have one? ??I use grub-legacy to= > >>>>> boot > >>>>> stuff other than Unix. > >>>>=20 > >>>> When I said "it connects", I mean "calls". The same way it calls= > >>>> whatever thingy Window uses. > >>>=20 > >>> Right. ??And what about non-windows, non-Unix systems that don't > >>> have > >>> any thingy to call? > >>=20 > >> Then you don't have an operating system. > >=20 > > Yes, I do. >=20 > Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. > Understand this: any Linux/Unix init system (systemd, SysV, Upstart, > OpenRC) is simply a program... that the Linux kernel itself executes.= > That's the init=3D command line in the kernel. Correct, the *kernel* executes it. Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread: "That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart)" The kernel executes the initsystem, the initsystem takes care of the re= st.=20 Care to explain, why grub2 needs to connect to (or call) the initsystem= ? > Regards. Best, Michael