From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvxpy-000510-Ew for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:44:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09FA021C2CD; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0295621C119 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf25 with SMTP id 25so517313wwf.10 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=Z2qWlrfckucIQPazgHTAkaUCgQmMTFcBdE+oRBZcxz0=; b=KwH365OdWciErP4vg9xeftaUZRAeqwTvGiuRB1SVzZyAlXYdFXrWlVwPOnsNL4gG4/ eXsUgoDQ8TW2k56U0urJ7I4P0QWHwgGZ0ogyxX4ypfbhQOs/sCQJ+47WQxhRyuhRaIPf FLgxVWl7qMUHoxuOL29JRofy1+qgC6MPqr60s= Received: by 10.216.160.193 with SMTP id u43mr1065277wek.88.1314132216164; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-55.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm282137wbx.17.2011.08.23.13.43.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:43:28 +0200 Message-ID: <1512330.JWJZRg1h6R@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/3.0.3-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <4E540A9E.8020606@darkmetatron.de> References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <10047113.P4fhB6gBS3@nazgul> <4E540A9E.8020606@darkmetatron.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e47786232292cd49f84f2561fad088c7 On Tue 23 August 2011 22:16:30 Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler did opine thusly: > Am 23.08.2011 21:43, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > Sadly, HAL is not yet dead. It lives still. > >=20 > > It lives on the production database server I just happen to be > > rebooting as I type this (another story for another time) and > > will continue to live here for a very very long time indeed. >=20 > WHY is HAL installed on a database server? > I still see desktop systems with HAL, last on an newish kubuntu of a > friend, but on a server? For what is HAL needed there? I wish I knew why. The fellow that did the install might know. I'm=20 betting it's because he clicked yes, yes, yes, yes, ok on the RHEL=20 install CD dialogs. I can't fix it without running afoul of the Change Management process,=20= and today's emergency reboot didn't leave me any time to poke around=20= and determine the effect of removing hal. This is how life in corporate IT works.... --=20 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com