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From: Joost Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:18:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1483700.Ch8zI2G8s9@eve> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53D938E8.9080009@gmail.com>

On Wednesday 30 July 2014 20:26:48 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/07/2014 20:02, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > This 'de-bloat' crap - who came up with that? People who use it all the
> > times seldomly realize that the 'small and unbloated' software they use
> > is in a lot of cases neither small, nor not bloated.
> 
> Usually it comes from the same headspace that ricing comes from. Humans
> are all about perception, very very very few of them can actually look
> at things in an unbiased way. So it goes like this:
> 
> User hates Gnome. [opinion]
> User decides that because Gnome integrates so many things vertically
> then Gnome must necessarily be bloated. [invalid conclusion not backed
> up by facts]
> User decides to try Razor|LXDE|Enlightenment|*box|whatever [valid activity]
> User likes <whatever> [opinion]
> User concludes that <whatever> is therefore "better" than Gnome
> [erronously equate specific opinion with fact for the general case]
> Therefore <whatever> is not bloated and Gnome is, to satisfy wrong
> conclusion at #2 [I can't even begin to think what fallacy this is]
> 
> 
> Not much opinion in any of that.
> We humans are mostly hard-wired to react based on past experience and
> data blindly accepted as fact in the past. 9 times out of 10 this helps
> you leap out of the way of the tiger seeking to have you for lunch. You
> got this ability from dad's genes and it must be raising the odds for
> you and he otherwise he wouldn't have survived long enough to sire you.
> If you stop to think about the tiger, he is for sure going to have a
> nice lunch. So we humans that survived did so by jumping to conclusions
> and having them work out OK on average. This new-fangled idea of
> actually thinking about things all the way through is a very new idea,
> and most of the species hasn't gotten the hang of it yet.

This does still seem to be a valid survival requirement for a large part of 
the worlds population though, including where you are.
For people living in a "so-called" civilized world, tigers are only found 
inside places commonly called a "zoo" :)

> So now you know why ricers swear blind that -pipe in CFLAGS "*doubles*
> the running speed, dude!"

It does!
I enabled -pipe in my CFLAGS and all the software was running a lot faster on 
my new machine compared to my old one ;)

--
Joost


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-30 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-29 17:04 [gentoo-user] USE flags handling behrouz khosravi
2014-07-29 17:18 ` Philip Webb
2014-07-29 20:15   ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-29 22:04     ` Philip Webb
2014-07-30  1:00       ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-30 10:37       ` Dale
2014-07-30 13:14         ` Peter Humphrey
2014-07-30 16:52           ` Dale
2014-07-29 17:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-29 17:32   ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-07-29 20:56   ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-29 20:16 ` Walter Dnes
2014-07-29 21:35   ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-30  1:01     ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-30  0:54   ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-30 14:07     ` [gentoo-user] " James
2014-07-30 15:02       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-30 18:02         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-30 18:26           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-30 20:18             ` Joost Roeleveld [this message]
2014-07-30 20:22               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-30 20:43                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-30 20:53                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-30 22:34                 ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-07-30 19:05           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-30 19:48             ` Dale
2014-07-30 20:31               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-30 20:54                 ` Dale
2014-07-30 20:59                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-31  0:26                     ` Dale
2014-07-31  2:41                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-31  6:28                         ` Walter Dnes
2014-07-31  7:23                           ` Dale
2014-07-31  8:24                             ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-31  9:28                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-31  1:55                 ` Walter Dnes
2014-07-31  2:49                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-31  3:50                     ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-07-31  8:47                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-31 10:45                         ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-07-31 13:37                           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-31 14:16                             ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-31 14:33                               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-31 14:35                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-07-31 17:13                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-01  9:49                             ` Peter Humphrey
2014-08-01  3:16                         ` Walter Dnes
2014-08-01 16:26                           ` Philip Webb
2014-08-02 13:35                             ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-02 15:13                               ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2014-08-03  6:49                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2014-08-04  2:53                                   ` Philip Webb
2014-08-04  3:23                                   ` Stroller
2014-08-04  3:26                                   ` wraeth
2014-08-04  4:37                                     ` Dale
2014-08-02 22:08                               ` [gentoo-user] " Philip Webb
2014-08-01 16:57                           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-08-03  2:59                             ` Walter Dnes
2014-08-03  4:38                               ` Philip Webb
2014-08-03  7:07                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2014-08-03  8:17                                   ` Walter Dnes
2014-08-03  8:47                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-08-04  3:39                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2014-08-04  7:26                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-08-04  7:30                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-08-03 13:57                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2014-08-01 19:49                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-31  8:57                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-07-31  6:34                   ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-31  8:32                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-31  8:47                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-30 18:12       ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-30 18:56         ` James
2014-07-30 19:40           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-29 21:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-30 17:57 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-07-30 18:33   ` Alan McKinnon
2014-07-30 18:32 ` the
2014-07-31 13:05 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2014-07-31 13:22   ` behrouz khosravi
2014-07-31 15:27   ` the
2014-08-17 21:21 ` thegeezer
2014-08-18  5:16   ` behrouz khosravi

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