[gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system?  Is it media-plugins/gst-
plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this morning, when it hadn't done so 
before?

This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada below in case it is 
more informative:

[nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 
[ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2]


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~ # emerge -uatDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge       ] app-portage/layman-2.0.0  USE="git subversion -bazaar -cvs -
darcs -mercurial {-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 (-pypy2_0) -python2_6" 
[ebuild     U  ]  dev-vcs/subversion-1.7.14 [1.7.13] USE="berkdb dso kde nls 
webdav-neon -apache2 -ctypes-python -debug -doc -extras -gnome-keyring -java -
perl -python -ruby -sasl {-test} -vim-syntax -webdav-serf" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 5,905 kB
[nomerge       ] app-pda/barry-0.18.3  USE="nls -boost -desktop -doc -gui -
opensync -static-libs" 
[nomerge       ]  dev-cpp/libxmlpp-2.36.0:2.6  USE="-doc {-test}" 
[ebuild     U  ]   dev-cpp/glibmm-2.36.2:2 [2.32.1:2] USE="-debug -doc -
examples {-test}" 2,256 kB
[ebuild  rR    ] kde-base/kamera-4.10.5:4  USE="handbook (-aqua) -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-util/meld-1.8.2 [1.7.0] USE="highlight -gnome" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 414 kB
[ebuild     U  ] www-client/chromium-31.0.1650.63 [31.0.1650.57] USE="cups -
bindist -custom-cflags -gnome -gnome-keyring -gps -kerberos (-neon) -
pulseaudio (-selinux) (-system-sqlite) (-tcmalloc) {-test}" LINGUAS="en_GB -am 
-ar -bg -bn -ca -cs -da -de -el -es -es_LA -et -fa -fi -fil -fr -gu -he -hi -
hr -hu -id -it -ja -kn -ko -lt -lv -ml -mr -ms -nb -nl -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -
ru -sk -sl -sr -sv -sw -ta -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 170,438 kB
[ebuild     U  ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5 [2.10.7-r4] USE="dbus gstreamer gtk 
ncurses nls spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -
groupwise -idn -meanwhile -mxit -networkmanager -perl -prediction -python -
sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr -zeroconf" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 0 kB
[ebuild  rR    ] app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3  USE="bluetooth branding cups 
dbus gtk kde opengl vba webdav (-aqua) -debug -eds -gnome -gstreamer -gtk3 -
java -jemalloc -mysql -odk -postgres -telepathy {-test}" 
LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="presenter-minimizer -nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell -
scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -
python3_3" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3*" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ] www-client/firefox-24.1.1 [17.0.9] USE="alsa dbus jit 
libnotify minimal startup-notification -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-
optimization -debug -gstreamer (-pgo) -pulseaudio% (-selinux) -system-cairo% -
system-icu% -system-jpeg% -system-sqlite -wifi" LINGUAS="en_GB -af -ak -ar -as 
-ast -be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_ZA -eo -
es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN -
he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -ku -lg -lt -lv -mai 
-mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -nso -or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -
si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW -
zu" 117,373 kB
[nomerge       ] net-misc/icaclient-12.1.0  USE="nsplugin" LINGUAS="-de -ja" 
[ebuild     U  ]  app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20131008-r2 
[20131008-r1] USE="alsa development pulseaudio%*" ABI_X86="(-32)" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.10.5:4  USE="cups (-aqua) -floppy -
lirc" 
[nomerge       ]  kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5:4  USE="(-aqua) -debug" 
[nomerge       ]   app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 [1.3.12] USE="-
gnome-keyring" LINGUAS="en_GB -ar -as -bg -bn -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -
de -el -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja -ka -kn -ko 
-lo -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -si -
sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 
[nomerge       ]    app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 [1.3.12] 
USE="policykit -doc" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 
[blocks b      ]     <app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 ("<app-
admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3" is blocking app-admin/system-config-
printer-common-1.4.3)
[ebuild     U  ]      app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 [1.3.12] 
USE="-gnome-keyring" LINGUAS="en_GB -ar -as -bg -bn -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy 
-da -de -el -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja -ka -
kn -ko -lo -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru 
-si -sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 872 kB
[ebuild     U  ]       app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 [1.3.12] 
USE="policykit -doc" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5 [2.10.7-r4] USE="dbus gstreamer gtk 
ncurses nls spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -
groupwise -idn -meanwhile -mxit -networkmanager -perl -prediction -python -
sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr -zeroconf" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
[nomerge       ]  net-libs/farsight2-0.0.31  USE="-msn -python -upnp" 
[nomerge       ]   net-libs/libnice-0.1.4  USE="upnp" 
[nomerge       ]    net-libs/gupnp-igd-0.2.1  USE="introspection -python" 
[ebuild     U  ]     net-libs/gupnp-0.20.8:0/4 [0.18.4:0/0] USE="connman 
introspection -networkmanager" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 373 kB
[ebuild     U  ]      net-libs/gssdp-0.14.6:0/3 [0.12.2.1:0/0] 
USE="introspection -gtk" 277 kB
[ebuild     U  ]       net-libs/libsoup-2.42.3.1:2.4 [2.38.1:2.4] 
USE="introspection ssl -debug -samba {-test}" 723 kB
[ebuild     U  ]        net-libs/glib-networking-2.36.2 [2.32.3] USE="libproxy 
ssl -gnome -smartcard {-test}" 345 kB
[ebuild     U  ]         net-libs/libproxy-0.4.11-r1 [0.4.10-r1] USE="kde -
gnome -mono -networkmanager -perl -python -spidermonkey {-test} -webkit" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 92 kB
[nomerge       ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5 [2.10.7-r4] USE="dbus gstreamer gtk 
ncurses nls spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -
groupwise -idn -meanwhile -mxit -networkmanager -perl -prediction -python -
sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr -zeroconf" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
[nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 
[ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] 
USE="introspection ldap policykit -debug -gtk -orbit%" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 1,524 kB
[nomerge       ] app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 [1.3.12] USE="-
gnome-keyring" LINGUAS="en_GB -ar -as -bg -bn -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -
de -el -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja -ka -kn -ko 
-lo -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -si -
sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 
[ebuild  NS    ]  x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7:3 [2.24.17:2] USE="X cups introspection 
(-aqua) -colord -debug -examples (-packagekit) {-test} -vim-syntax (-wayland) 
-xinerama" 13,523 kB
[nomerge       ] net-print/hplip-3.13.9  USE="X hpcups hpijs kde libnotify 
policykit qt4 -doc -fax -libusb0 -minimal -parport -scanner -snmp -static-
ppds" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -
python2_6" 
[nomerge       ]  dev-python/notify-python-0.1.1-r3  USE="-examples" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 
[ebuild     U  ]   dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4:2 [2.24.0-r3:2] USE="-doc -
examples {-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ]    x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.22:2 [2.24.17:2] USE="cups 
introspection (-aqua) -debug -examples {-test} -vim-syntax -xinerama" 13,063 
kB
[nomerge       ] x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7:3 [2.24.17:2] USE="X cups introspection 
(-aqua) -colord -debug -examples (-packagekit) {-test} -vim-syntax (-wayland) 
-xinerama" 
[ebuild  N     ]  app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.8.1:2  USE="{-test}" 261 kB
[ebuild  N     ]   app-accessibility/at-spi2-core-2.8.0:2  USE="introspection" 
427 kB
[nomerge       ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.8.6.8:0/6.8.6.8  USE="X bzip2 cxx 
jpeg lcms openmp pango png svg tiff truetype xml zlib -autotrace -corefonts -
djvu -fftw -fontconfig -fpx -graphviz -hdri -jbig -jpeg2k -lqr -lzma -opencl -
openexr -perl -postscript -q32 -q64 -q8 -raw -static-libs {-test} -webp -wmf" 
[ebuild     U  ]  gnome-base/librsvg-2.39.0:2 [2.36.4-r1:2] USE="introspection 
-gtk -tools -vala" 507 kB
[nomerge       ] app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 [1.3.12] USE="-
gnome-keyring" LINGUAS="en_GB -ar -as -bg -bn -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -
de -el -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja -ka -kn -ko 
-lo -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -si -
sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 
[ebuild  NS    ]  dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3:3 [2.28.6-r53:2] USE="cairo 
threads -examples {-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 -python2_6 -
python3_2" 642 kB
[nomerge       ] app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.8.1:2  USE="{-test}" 
[ebuild     U  ]  dev-libs/atk-2.8.0 [2.6.0] USE="introspection nls {-test%}" 
620 kB
[nomerge       ] media-video/vlc-2.0.7  USE="X a52 aac alsa avcodec avformat 
cdda cddb dbus dts dvbpsi dvd encode ffmpeg flac gcrypt kde libnotify live mmx 
mp3 mpeg ncurses ogg opengl png postproc qt4 sdl shout sqlite sse svg swscale 
truetype udev vaapi vorbis x264 xcb xml xv -aalib (-altivec) -atmo (-
audioqueue) -avahi -bidi -bluray -dc1394 -debug -dirac (-direct2d) -directfb 
(-directx) (-dshow) -dvb (-dxva2) -egl -fbosd -fluidsynth -fontconfig -gme -
gnome -gnutls -growl -httpd -ieee1394 (-ios-vout) -jack -kate -libass -libcaca 
-libproxy -libsamplerate -libtar -libtiger -linsys -lirc -lua (-macosx) (-
macosx-audio) (-macosx-dialog-provider) (-macosx-eyetv) (-macosx-qtkit) (-
macosx-quartztext) (-macosx-vout) -matroska (-media-library) -modplug -mtp -
musepack (-neon) -omxil -optimisememory -opus -oss -portaudio -projectm -
pulseaudio -pvr -rtsp -run-as-root -samba -schroedinger -sdl-image -shine -sid 
-skins -speex -switcher -taglib -theora -twolame -upnp -v4l -vcdx -vlm (-
waveout) (-wingdi) -wma-fixed -xosd -zvbi" 
[nomerge       ]  gnome-base/librsvg-2.39.0:2 [2.36.4-r1:2] USE="introspection 
-gtk -tools -vala" 
[ebuild     U  ]   x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.28.2:2 [2.26.4:2] USE="X 
introspection jpeg tiff -debug -jpeg2k {-test}" 1,165 kB
[ebuild     U  ]   x11-libs/pango-1.34.1 [1.30.1] USE="X introspection -debug" 
992 kB
[nomerge       ] kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.10.5:4  USE="wallpapers (-aqua)" 
[nomerge       ]  kde-base/systemsettings-4.10.5:4  USE="handbook opengl 
semantic-desktop usb (-aqua) -debug -gtk {-test}" 
[nomerge       ]   x11-libs/libxklavier-5.2.1  USE="introspection -doc" 
[nomerge       ]    dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.36.0-r1 [1.32.1] 
USE="cairo%* -doctool {-test} (-doc%)" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%*" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%*" 
[blocks b      ]     <dev-lang/vala-0.20.0 ("<dev-lang/vala-0.20.0" is 
blocking dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.36.0-r1)
[uninstall     ]      dev-lang/vala-0.14.2-r2:0.14  USE="vapigen {-test}" 
[nomerge       ] net-libs/gssdp-0.14.6:0/3 [0.12.2.1:0/0] USE="introspection -
gtk" 
[nomerge       ]  dev-lang/vala-0.22.1:0.22 [0.14.2-r2:0.14] USE="vapigen {-
test}" 
[nomerge       ]   dev-libs/glib-2.36.4-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] USE="-debug (-fam) 
(-selinux) -static-libs -systemtap {-test} -utils -xattr" ABI_X86="(64%*) 
(-32) (-x32)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 
[blocks b      ]    <dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.36 ("<dev-libs/gobject-
introspection-1.36" is blocking dev-libs/glib-2.36.4-r1)
[ebuild     U  ]     dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.36.0-r1 [1.32.1] 
USE="cairo%* -doctool {-test} (-doc%)" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%*" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%*" 1,173 kB
[ebuild  r  U  ] media-libs/libgphoto2-2.5.2-r1:0/6 [2.4.14-r1:0/0] USE="exif 
jpeg nls -doc -examples -gd -zeroconf" CAMERAS="fuji ptp2 -adc65 -agfa_cl20 -
aox -ax203 -barbie -canon -casio_qv -clicksmart310 -digigr8 -digita -dimagev -
dimera3500 -directory -enigma13 -gsmart300 -hp215 -iclick -jamcam -jd11 -
jl2005a -jl2005c -kodak_dc120 -kodak_dc210 -kodak_dc240 -kodak_dc3200 -
kodak_ez200 -konica -konica_qm150 -largan -lg_gsm -mars -mustek -
panasonic_coolshot -panasonic_dc1000 -panasonic_dc1580 -panasonic_l859 -
pccam300 -pccam600 -pentax% -polaroid_pdc320 -polaroid_pdc640 -polaroid_pdc700 
-ricoh -ricoh_g3 -samsung -sierra -sipix_blink2 -sipix_web2 -smal -sonix -
sony_dscf1 -sony_dscf55 -soundvision -spca50x -sq905 -st2205 -stv0674 -stv0680 
-sx330z -topfield -toshiba_pdrm11 -tp6801 (-sipix_blink%) (-template%)" 6,296 
kB
[nomerge       ] net-libs/gupnp-0.20.8:0/4 [0.18.4:0/0] USE="connman 
introspection -networkmanager" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 
[ebuild  NS    ]  dev-lang/vala-0.22.1:0.22 [0.14.2-r2:0.14] USE="vapigen {-
test}" 2,628 kB
[nomerge       ] dev-util/meld-1.8.2 [1.7.0] USE="highlight -gnome" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 
[nomerge       ]  dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1-r1:2  USE="-doc" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 
[nomerge       ]   dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4:2 [2.24.0-r3:2] USE="-doc -
examples {-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 
[ebuild     U  ]    dev-python/pygobject-2.28.6-r55:2 [2.28.6-r53:2] USE="-
examples -libffi {-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] media-video/smplayer-0.8.5  USE="-debug" LINGUAS="-ar_SY -bg 
-ca -cs -da -de -el_GR -en_US -es -et -eu -fi -fr -gl -he_IL -hr -hu -it -ja -
ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -ms_MY -nl -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro_RO -ru_RU -sk -sl_SI -sr -sv 
-th -tr -uk_UA -vi_VN -zh_CN -zh_TW" 
[nomerge       ]  media-video/mplayer-1.1.1-r1  USE="X a52 alsa cddb cdio 
cdparanoia dts dv dvd dvdnav enca encode faac faad gif iconv ipv6 jpeg libass 
live mad mmx mmxext mng mp3 network opengl osdmenu png quicktime rar rtc rtmp 
sdl shm speex sse sse2 ssse3 theora toolame tremor truetype twolame unicode 
vdpau vorbis x264 xscreensaver xv xvid xvmc -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib (-altivec) 
(-aqua) -bidi -bindist -bl -bluray -bs2b -cpudetection -debug -dga -directfb -
doc -dvb -dxr3 -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gsm -jack -joystick -jpeg2k -ladspa -libcaca 
-libmpeg2 -lirc -lzo -md5sum -nas -nut -openal -oss -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr -
radio -samba -tga -v4l (-vidix) -xanim -xinerama -zoran" VIDEO_CARDS="-mga -
s3virge -tdfx" 
[nomerge       ]   media-libs/libass-0.10.1  USE="enca fontconfig harfbuzz -
static-libs" 
[ebuild  N     ]    media-libs/harfbuzz-0.9.23:0/0.9.18  USE="cairo glib 
graphite icu truetype -introspection -static-libs" 1,004 kB
[nomerge       ] app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 [1.3.12] USE="-
gnome-keyring" LINGUAS="en_GB -ar -as -bg -bn -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -
de -el -es -et -fa -fi -fr -gu -he -hi -hr -hu -hy -id -is -it -ja -ka -kn -ko 
-lo -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -si -
sk -sl -sr -sr@latin -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7%* -python2_6%" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -
python2_6%" 
[ebuild  N     ]  dev-python/pycairo-1.10.0-r4  USE="svg xcb -doc -examples {-
test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_3 -python2_6 -python3_2" 0 kB
[nomerge       ] app-editors/wxhexeditor-0.21 
[nomerge       ]  x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1:2.8  USE="X opengl sdl tiff (-aqua) 
-debug -doc -gnome -gstreamer -odbc -pch" 
[nomerge       ]   media-libs/libsdl-1.2.15-r4  USE="X alsa audio joystick 
opengl video xv -aalib -custom-cflags -dga -directfb -fbcon -ggi -libcaca -nas 
-oss (-ps3) -pulseaudio -static-libs (-svga) -tslib -xinerama" 
[ebuild     U  ]    media-libs/audiofile-0.3.6-r1:0/1 [0.3.5:0/1] USE="flac%* 
-static-libs {-test}" ABI_X86="(64%*) (-32) (-x32)" 519 kB
[nomerge       ] www-client/firefox-24.1.1 [17.0.9] USE="alsa dbus jit 
libnotify minimal startup-notification -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-
optimization -debug -gstreamer (-pgo) -pulseaudio% (-selinux) -system-cairo% -
system-icu% -system-jpeg% -system-sqlite -wifi" LINGUAS="en_GB -af -ak -ar -as 
-ast -be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_ZA -eo -
es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN -
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:16:43 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system?  Is it
> media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this
> morning, when it hadn't done so before?
> 
> This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada below in
> case it is more informative:
> 
> [nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 
> [ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2]

Note how there is "gconf" in
"media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10"; thus, you don't want
this so I suggest you to add "gnome-base/gconf" and
"media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf" to package.mask. By doing so, you
will be warned when something depends on it in the future.

In this case you will find that net-im/pidgin[gstreamer] depends on it;
thus, you will want to disable that USE flag on net-im/pidgin.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : TomWij@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 10:31:38 you wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:16:43 +0000
> 
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system?  Is it
> > media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this
> > morning, when it hadn't done so before?
> > 
> > This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada below in
> > case it is more informative:
> > 
> > [nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10
> > [ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2]
> 
> Note how there is "gconf" in
> "media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10"; thus, you don't want
> this so I suggest you to add "gnome-base/gconf" and
> "media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf" to package.mask. By doing so, you
> will be warned when something depends on it in the future.
> 
> In this case you will find that net-im/pidgin[gstreamer] depends on it;
> thus, you will want to disable that USE flag on net-im/pidgin.

Thanks Tom!

It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be sufficient, 
without having to manually mask packages.  I had gstreamer in pidgin to be 
able to get sound.  I'm guessing that I need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to 
set up a voice call in gtalk.

Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use 
gstreamer?
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be
> sufficient, without having to manually mask packages.  I had
> gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound.  I'm guessing that I
> need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk.
> 
> Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to
> use gstreamer?

Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more
details; but it is just one small package though.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : TomWij@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote:

> Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use
> gstreamer?

Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not ~amd64). 
In fact, "eix -I gnome" returns only polkit-gnome. I see that's only there 
because I've inherited a gtk USE flag from the desktop profile.

I've now set -gtk in make.conf and I'm reinstalling world (13 packages, 
including gcc and libre-office) to check that I really don't need gtk. Even gimp 
doesn't need gtk!

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 +0000
> 
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be
> > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages.  I had
> > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound.  I'm guessing that I
> > need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk.
> > 
> > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to
> > use gstreamer?
> 
> Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more
> details; but it is just one small package though.

Sure, today it is just gnome-base, tomorrow I could end up *having* to install 
systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed appropriate for your 
average desktop system.  I've masked the two you suggested for now.

Thanks again!
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:47:41 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> tomorrow I could end up *having* to install 
> systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed appropriate
> for your average desktop system.

They don't have control over the dependencies in packages and
distributions they don't own though; so, for them to be listed as a
dependency goes a long way.

I think that for most packages in the Portage tree there is a large
enough chain of dependencies between the package and systemd such that
one can always avoid having to install systemd. But we're not there and
I think we will never be there, because systemd is not often listed as
a dependency (only on ~2 or so GNOME packages?) compared to something
like ncurses that is listed all over the place...

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : TomWij@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Walter Dnes]

On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 11:47:41AM +0000, Mick wrote
> On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 +0000
> > 
> > Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be
> > > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages.  I had
> > > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound.  I'm guessing that I
> > > need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk.
> > > 
> > > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to
> > > use gstreamer?
> > 
> > Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more
> > details; but it is just one small package though.
> 
> Sure, today it is just gnome-base, tomorrow I could end up *having*
> to install systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed
> appropriate for your average desktop system.  I've masked the two
> you suggested for now.

  The GNOME people have now made dbus a hard-coded dependancy of the
latest gtk+.  systemd can't be far behind.  I've had dbus masked since
it arrived approximately the same time as HAL.  Here's what I get when
trying to update gtk+



[i660][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv --backtrack=0 gtk+

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-apps/dbus-1" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- sys-apps/dbus-1.6.18-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask, ~amd64 keyword)
- sys-apps/dbus-1.6.18::gentoo (masked by: package.mask, ~amd64 keyword)
- sys-apps/dbus-1.6.16::gentoo (masked by: package.mask, ~amd64 keyword)
- sys-apps/dbus-1.6.14::gentoo (masked by: package.mask, ~amd64 keyword)
- sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)

(dependency required by "app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.8.1" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7[X]" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "gtk+" [argument])
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 15:25:32 Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 11:47:41AM +0000, Mick wrote
> 
> > On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 +0000
> > > 
> > > Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be
> > > > sufficient, without having to manually mask packages.  I had
> > > > gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound.  I'm guessing that I
> > > > need gstreamer in pidgin to be able to set up a voice call in gtalk.
> > > > 
> > > > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to
> > > > use gstreamer?
> > > 
> > > Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more
> > > details; but it is just one small package though.
> > 
> > Sure, today it is just gnome-base, tomorrow I could end up *having*
> > to install systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed
> > appropriate for your average desktop system.  I've masked the two
> > you suggested for now.
> 
>   The GNOME people have now made dbus a hard-coded dependancy of the
> latest gtk+.  systemd can't be far behind.  I've had dbus masked since
> it arrived approximately the same time as HAL.  Here's what I get when
> trying to update gtk+

I always thought that dbus is useful on a desktop system that is used to run, 
errm ... applications, and it doesn't violate the *nix design philosophy.  As 
far as I understand it is only trying to be an IPC manager.  I seem to recall 
that Poettering and co tweaked something in libdbus, but my knowledge is quite 
limited on all things Gnome.

Gnome devs decided in late 2012 to *not* make systemd a hard coded dependency, 
but look where we are now.  Without systemd needed/desirable functionality for 
a Gnome desktop won't work.  So, let's say that I tend to be sceptical on what 
might be used next as the thin end of the wedge.

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:29:25 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote:
> > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use
> > gstreamer?
> 
> Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not
> ~amd64). In fact, "eix -I gnome" returns only polkit-gnome. I see that's
> only there because I've inherited a gtk USE flag from the desktop profile.
> 
> I've now set -gtk in make.conf and I'm reinstalling world (13 packages,
> including gcc and libre-office) to check that I really don't need gtk. Even
> gimp doesn't need gtk!

Interesting!  I seem to have two packages from gnome:

# emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome 

Calculating dependencies... done!
  app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by:
    kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires app-admin/system-config-printer-
gnome

# emerge --depclean -v -a gnome-base/gnome-common

Calculating dependencies... done!
  gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 pulled in by:
    dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 requires gnome-base/gnome-common

Not sure why they are being pulled in as dependencies ... ?

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Alan McKinnon]

On 11/12/2013 01:49, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:29:25 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote:
>>> Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use
>>> gstreamer?
>>
>> Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not
>> ~amd64). In fact, "eix -I gnome" returns only polkit-gnome. I see that's
>> only there because I've inherited a gtk USE flag from the desktop profile.
>>
>> I've now set -gtk in make.conf and I'm reinstalling world (13 packages,
>> including gcc and libre-office) to check that I really don't need gtk. Even
>> gimp doesn't need gtk!
> 
> Interesting!  I seem to have two packages from gnome:
> 
> # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome 
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>   app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by:
>     kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires app-admin/system-config-printer-
> gnome
> 
> # emerge --depclean -v -a gnome-base/gnome-common
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>   gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 pulled in by:
>     dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 requires gnome-base/gnome-common
> 
> Not sure why they are being pulled in as dependencies ... ?
> 

The KDE print manager has a long history of being broken beyond belief.

From watching what changes over the years since 4.0 I reckon the devs
finally gave up and instead pinched useful bits out of gnome to get the
damn stuff to work right

kde-base/print-manager has a hard dep on
app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome and that uses
app-admin/system-config-printer-common

Don't worry about the bits with gnome in the name, those two packages
are very small and provide utility functions. They do come from the
gnome project but they form plumbing and are not gnome-specific


$ equery files gnome-common
 * Searching for gnome-common ...
 * Contents of gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4:
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh
/usr/bin/gnome-doc-common
/usr/share
/usr/share/aclocal
/usr/share/aclocal/gnome-code-coverage.m4
/usr/share/aclocal/gnome-common.m4
/usr/share/aclocal/gnome-compiler-flags.m4
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4
/usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4/ChangeLog.bz2
/usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4/README.doc-build.bz2
/usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.7.4/usage.txt.bz2
/usr/share/gnome-common
/usr/share/gnome-common/data
/usr/share/gnome-common/data/omf.make
/usr/share/gnome-common/data/xmldocs.make


$ equery files system-config-printer-common
 * Searching for system-config-printer-common ...
 * Contents of app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3:
/etc
/etc/cupshelpers
/etc/cupshelpers/preferreddrivers.xml
/etc/dbus-1
/etc/dbus-1/system.d
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/com.redhat.NewPrinterNotification.conf
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/com.redhat.PrinterDriversInstaller.conf
/lib
/lib/udev
/lib/udev/rules.d
/lib/udev/rules.d/70-printers.rules
/lib/udev/udev-add-printer
/lib/udev/udev-configure-printer
/usr
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/systemd
/usr/lib/systemd/system
/usr/lib/systemd/system/configure-printer@.service
/usr/lib64
/usr/lib64/python2.7
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers-1.0-py2.7.egg-info
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/__init__.py
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/config.py
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/cupshelpers.py
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/installdriver.py
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/openprinting.py
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/ppds.py
/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/xmldriverprefs.py
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3
/usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3/AUTHORS.bz2
/usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3/ChangeLog.bz2
/usr/share/doc/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3/README.bz2
/usr/share/system-config-printer
/usr/share/system-config-printer/PhysicalDevice.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/SearchCriterion.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/check-device-ids.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/config.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/debug.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/dnssdresolve.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/firewallsettings.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/installpackage.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/monitor.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/ppdippstr.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/probe_printer.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/smburi.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/statereason.py
/usr/share/system-config-printer/xml
/usr/share/system-config-printer/xml/preferreddrivers.rng
/usr/share/system-config-printer/xml/validate.py


-- 
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alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote:

> I seem to have two packages from gnome:
> 
> # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>   app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by:
>     kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires app-admin/system-config-printer-
> gnome
> 
> # emerge --depclean -v -a gnome-base/gnome-common
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>   gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 pulled in by:
>     dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 requires gnome-base/gnome-common
> 
> Not sure why they are being pulled in as dependencies ... ?

Further to what Alan said, I don't even have print-manager installed here. I 
checked what would be pulled in if I did install it and found 10 dependencies, 
including the two Alan mentioned. Did you install print-manager explicitly, or 
was it pulled in by something else? I have 8 kde-base/*-meta packages 
installed but none of them have pulled in print-manager.

Printing seems to work well enough here since I connected my printers to my 
workstation directly. My mini-server used to be a print server until a new 
version of CUPS was released a few months ago. I couldn't get it to share 
printers so I just moved them.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:58:19 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote:
> > I seem to have two packages from gnome:
> > 
> > # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome
> > 
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > 
> >   app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by:
> >     kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires
> >     app-admin/system-config-printer-
> > 
> > gnome
> > 
> > # emerge --depclean -v -a gnome-base/gnome-common
> > 
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > 
> >   gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 pulled in by:
> >     dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 requires gnome-base/gnome-common
> > 
> > Not sure why they are being pulled in as dependencies ... ?
> 
> Further to what Alan said, I don't even have print-manager installed here.
> I checked what would be pulled in if I did install it and found 10
> dependencies, including the two Alan mentioned. Did you install
> print-manager explicitly, or was it pulled in by something else? I have 8
> kde-base/*-meta packages installed but none of them have pulled in
> print-manager.
> 
> Printing seems to work well enough here since I connected my printers to my
> workstation directly. My mini-server used to be a print server until a new
> version of CUPS was released a few months ago. I couldn't get it to share
> printers so I just moved them.

I have not to my knowledge installed a print-manager explicitly, so I assume 
it was pulled in by one of the kde metas.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Alan McKinnon]

On 11/12/2013 18:29, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:58:19 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Tuesday 10 Dec 2013 23:49:06 Mick wrote:
>>> I seem to have two packages from gnome:
>>>
>>> # emerge --depclean -v -a app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome
>>>
>>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>
>>>   app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 pulled in by:
>>>     kde-base/print-manager-4.10.5 requires
>>>     app-admin/system-config-printer-
>>>
>>> gnome
>>>
>>> # emerge --depclean -v -a gnome-base/gnome-common
>>>
>>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>
>>>   gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 pulled in by:
>>>     dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 requires gnome-base/gnome-common
>>>
>>> Not sure why they are being pulled in as dependencies ... ?
>>
>> Further to what Alan said, I don't even have print-manager installed here.
>> I checked what would be pulled in if I did install it and found 10
>> dependencies, including the two Alan mentioned. Did you install
>> print-manager explicitly, or was it pulled in by something else? I have 8
>> kde-base/*-meta packages installed but none of them have pulled in
>> print-manager.
>>
>> Printing seems to work well enough here since I connected my printers to my
>> workstation directly. My mini-server used to be a print server until a new
>> version of CUPS was released a few months ago. I couldn't get it to share
>> printers so I just moved them.
> 
> I have not to my knowledge installed a print-manager explicitly, so I assume 
> it was pulled in by one of the kde metas.
> 

$ equery depends print-manager
 * These packages depend on print-manager:
kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ?
>=kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=])


Set USE="-cups" to fix



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote:

> $ equery depends print-manager
>  * These packages depend on print-manager:
> kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ?
> 
> >=kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=])
> 
> Set USE="-cups" to fix

Confirmed. I didn't have kdeutils-meta installed. Installing it pulls in 10 
packages with USE=-cups, 21 without. I'm installing it now.

Of course I want other programs to be able to print, so I only set -cups 
against kdeutils-meta.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 16:52:49 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > $ equery depends print-manager
> > 
> >  * These packages depend on print-manager:
> > kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ?
> > 
> > >=kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=])
> > 
> > Set USE="-cups" to fix
> 
> Confirmed. I didn't have kdeutils-meta installed. Installing it pulls in 10
> packages with USE=-cups, 21 without. I'm installing it now.
> 
> Of course I want other programs to be able to print, so I only set -cups
> against kdeutils-meta.

Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will still be 
able to print from kde applications?

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Alan McKinnon]

On 11/12/2013 23:04, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 16:52:49 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:39:59 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> $ equery depends print-manager
>>>
>>>  * These packages depend on print-manager:
>>> kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.4 (cups ?
>>>
>>>> =kde-base/print-manager-4.11.4:4[aqua=])
>>>
>>> Set USE="-cups" to fix
>>
>> Confirmed. I didn't have kdeutils-meta installed. Installing it pulls in 10
>> packages with USE=-cups, 21 without. I'm installing it now.
>>
>> Of course I want other programs to be able to print, so I only set -cups
>> against kdeutils-meta.
> 
> Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will still be 
> able to print from kde applications?
> 


I believe so. As far as I could ever tell, KDE's print manager was just
a configurator front end to CUPS, so you can configure CUPS directly
instead.

For many years, that's exactly what I did. The print manager was masked
for years as "broken by design" and at one point wasn't even installed
by default at all. So I got used to hitting port 631 on localhost in a
browser.

I can't see any reason why it still isn't like that

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:04:00 Mick wrote:

> Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will still
> be able to print from kde applications?

Here, the K menu item "Manage Printing" opens a CUPS web page, specifically 
localhost:631. It's a bog-standard CUPS interface, with no need of KDE 
complications. There's no printer entry in system settings. I often print a 
spreadsheet from LibreOffice without problems.

So yes, other things being equal, you will. In any case, why not try it and 
see? You can revert easily enough if you hit a problem.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Thursday 12 Dec 2013 10:01:20 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:04:00 Mick wrote:
> > Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will
> > still be able to print from kde applications?
> 
> Here, the K menu item "Manage Printing" opens a CUPS web page, specifically
> localhost:631. It's a bog-standard CUPS interface, with no need of KDE
> complications. There's no printer entry in system settings. I often print a
> spreadsheet from LibreOffice without problems.
> 
> So yes, other things being equal, you will. In any case, why not try it and
> see? You can revert easily enough if you hit a problem.

Thank you Alan and Peter for your advice, 

I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE="-cups" to find out that umpteen packages 
want to be depcleaned:

==================================================
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

 kde-base/print-manager
    selected: 4.11.2 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
    selected: 4.10.5 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome
    selected: 1.4.3 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 x11-libs/gtk+
    selected: 3.8.7 
   protected: none 
     omitted: 2.24.22 

 app-text/xmlto
    selected: 0.0.24-r1 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 app-admin/system-config-printer-common
    selected: 1.4.3 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 dev-python/pycurl
    selected: 7.19.0-r3 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk
    selected: 2.8.1 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 dev-python/pycups
    selected: 1.9.63 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 dev-python/pygobject
    selected: 3.8.3 
   protected: none 
     omitted: 2.28.6-r55 

 gnome-base/gnome-common
    selected: 3.7.4 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

 app-accessibility/at-spi2-core
    selected: 2.8.0 
   protected: none 
     omitted: none 

All selected packages: app-text/xmlto-0.0.24-r1 app-admin/system-config-
printer-gnome-1.4.3 dev-python/pycurl-7.19.0-r3 gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 
kde-base/print-manager-4.11.2 app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.8.1 dev-
python/pygobject-3.8.3 app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 dev-
python/pycups-1.9.63 app-accessibility/at-spi2-core-2.8.0 x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 
kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.10.5

>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] 
==================================================

I may leave this until I have more time to look into it.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Alan McKinnon]

On 13/12/2013 09:04, Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 12 Dec 2013 10:01:20 Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:04:00 Mick wrote:
>>> Let me get this right, if I set 'kde-base/kdeutils-meta -cups' I will
>>> still be able to print from kde applications?
>>
>> Here, the K menu item "Manage Printing" opens a CUPS web page, specifically
>> localhost:631. It's a bog-standard CUPS interface, with no need of KDE
>> complications. There's no printer entry in system settings. I often print a
>> spreadsheet from LibreOffice without problems.
>>
>> So yes, other things being equal, you will. In any case, why not try it and
>> see? You can revert easily enough if you hit a problem.
> 
> Thank you Alan and Peter for your advice, 
> 
> I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE="-cups" to find out that umpteen packages 
> want to be depcleaned:
> 
> ==================================================
>>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
> 
>  kde-base/print-manager
>     selected: 4.11.2 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer
>     selected: 4.10.5 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome
>     selected: 1.4.3 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  x11-libs/gtk+
>     selected: 3.8.7 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: 2.24.22 
> 
>  app-text/xmlto
>     selected: 0.0.24-r1 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  app-admin/system-config-printer-common
>     selected: 1.4.3 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  dev-python/pycurl
>     selected: 7.19.0-r3 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk
>     selected: 2.8.1 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  dev-python/pycups
>     selected: 1.9.63 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  dev-python/pygobject
>     selected: 3.8.3 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: 2.28.6-r55 
> 
>  gnome-base/gnome-common
>     selected: 3.7.4 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
>  app-accessibility/at-spi2-core
>     selected: 2.8.0 
>    protected: none 
>      omitted: none 
> 
> All selected packages: app-text/xmlto-0.0.24-r1 app-admin/system-config-
> printer-gnome-1.4.3 dev-python/pycurl-7.19.0-r3 gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 
> kde-base/print-manager-4.11.2 app-accessibility/at-spi2-atk-2.8.1 dev-
> python/pygobject-3.8.3 app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 dev-
> python/pycups-1.9.63 app-accessibility/at-spi2-core-2.8.0 x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 
> kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.10.5
> 
>>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
> 
> Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] 
> ==================================================
> 
> I may leave this until I have more time to look into it.
> 

I wouldn't worry about that, it all looks legit to me. KDE's print
manager uses the gnome print infrastructure nd seems to hook into cups'
web interface.

All those packages are related to that in some way, and most importantly
you have no other packages that use them.

Only two seem worth looking deeper into:

kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer: you only need this if you use KDE's desktop
search with strigi and nepomuk. It's a plugin to search picture files

gtk+: do you use gtk apps at all? If not, this is safe to remove. You
won't have wholesale breakage if you remove it and it actually is
needed, it can be merged back in quickly.

Everything else is helper libs and utility functions which come and go
depending on your deps anyway




-- 
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alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday 13 Dec 2013 07:04:23 Mick wrote:

> I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE="-cups" to find out that umpteen packages
> want to be depcleaned:

--->8

> I may leave this until I have more time to look into it.

For comparison, here's the list of packages that would be pulled in if I were 
to rebuild kdeutils-meta with cups:

gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4
dev-python/pycurl-7.19.0-r3
x11-libs/xpyb-1.3.1-r2
dev-python/pycairo-1.10.0-r4
dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3
app-text/xmlto-0.0.24-r1
dev-python/dbus-python-1.2.0
dev-python/pycups-1.9.63
app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3
app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3
kde-base/print-manager-4.11.2
kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.2

No mention of strigi-analyzer or gtk+. Strigi-analyzer isn't installed here 
because nothing depends on it. As for gtk+ :

$ equery d =x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7
 * These packages depend on x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7:
app-admin/gkrellm-2.3.5-r2 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
app-admin/hardinfo-0.5.2_pre20130823 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
app-crypt/pinentry-0.8.2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
app-editors/bluefish-2.2.2 (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
                               (gtk3 ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.2:3)
                               (telepathy ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
app-text/ghostscript-gpl-9.05-r1 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
dev-db/libiodbc-3.52.7 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
dev-java/icedtea-bin-6.1.12.7 (X ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r1 (gtkstyle ? x11-libs/gtk+:2[aqua=])
gnome-base/librsvg-2.39.0 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.16:2)
                          (tools ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3:3)
gnome-extra/gucharmap-3.8.2 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.0:3[introspection?])
media-gfx/gimp-2.8.6 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.10:2)
media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.81 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.10:2)
media-video/mjpegtools-2.1.0 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
sci-misc/boinc-7.2.0 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
sys-apps/lshw-02.16b-r2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
www-client/chromium-31.0.1650.63 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
www-client/firefox-24.2.0 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2)
www-client/opera-12.16_p1860 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
www-client/seamonkey-2.22.1 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.14:2)
                            (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2)
www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.327 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.5-r1 (test ? x11-libs/gtk+:3)
x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
                        (aqua ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.4[aqua=])

Don't ask me why equery is ignoring the version specifier in the command line. 
As far as I can see, the only packages that should be in that list are librsvg 
and libnotify, both of which only require gtk+:3 if the test USE flag is set, 
which it isn't here. Oh, and bluefish, which seems to need gtk+:3 for its 
printing, which I don't use; and libreoffice, which only pulls it in if you've 
asked for it specifically by setting the gtk3 USE flag.

So it seems to me that you're safe. You could always run revdep-rebuild after 
letting all those packages be stripped out, just to make sure.

HTH.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Mick]

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On Friday 13 Dec 2013 10:49:24 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 13 Dec 2013 07:04:23 Mick wrote:
> > I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE="-cups" to find out that umpteen
> > packages
> 
> > want to be depcleaned:
> --->8
> 
> > I may leave this until I have more time to look into it.
> 
> For comparison, here's the list of packages that would be pulled in if I
> were to rebuild kdeutils-meta with cups:
> 
> gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4
> dev-python/pycurl-7.19.0-r3
> x11-libs/xpyb-1.3.1-r2
> dev-python/pycairo-1.10.0-r4
> dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3
> app-text/xmlto-0.0.24-r1
> dev-python/dbus-python-1.2.0
> dev-python/pycups-1.9.63
> app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3
> app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3
> kde-base/print-manager-4.11.2
> kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.2
> 
> No mention of strigi-analyzer or gtk+. Strigi-analyzer isn't installed here
> because nothing depends on it. As for gtk+ :
> 
> $ equery d =x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7
>  * These packages depend on x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7:
> app-admin/gkrellm-2.3.5-r2 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> app-admin/hardinfo-0.5.2_pre20130823 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> app-crypt/pinentry-0.8.2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> app-editors/bluefish-2.2.2 (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
> app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
>                                (gtk3 ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.2:3)
>                                (telepathy ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
> app-text/ghostscript-gpl-9.05-r1 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> dev-db/libiodbc-3.52.7 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> dev-java/icedtea-bin-6.1.12.7 (X ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
> dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r1 (gtkstyle ? x11-libs/gtk+:2[aqua=])
> gnome-base/librsvg-2.39.0 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.16:2)
>                           (tools ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-3:3)
> gnome-extra/gucharmap-3.8.2 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.0:3[introspection?])
> media-gfx/gimp-2.8.6 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.10:2)
> media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.81 (gtk ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.10:2)
> media-video/mjpegtools-2.1.0 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> sci-misc/boinc-7.2.0 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> sys-apps/lshw-02.16b-r2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> www-client/chromium-31.0.1650.63 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> www-client/firefox-24.2.0 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2)
> www-client/opera-12.16_p1860 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> www-client/seamonkey-2.22.1 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.14:2)
>                             (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2)
> www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.327 (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
> x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 (>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2)
> x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.5-r1 (test ? x11-libs/gtk+:3)
> x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2)
>                         (aqua ? >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.4[aqua=])
> 
> Don't ask me why equery is ignoring the version specifier in the command
> line. As far as I can see, the only packages that should be in that list
> are librsvg and libnotify, both of which only require gtk+:3 if the test
> USE flag is set, which it isn't here. Oh, and bluefish, which seems to
> need gtk+:3 for its printing, which I don't use; and libreoffice, which
> only pulls it in if you've asked for it specifically by setting the gtk3
> USE flag.
> 
> So it seems to me that you're safe. You could always run revdep-rebuild
> after letting all those packages be stripped out, just to make sure.
> 
> HTH.

Thank you both.  Nothing depended on strigi-analyzer so I got rid of it, along 
with the rest of the list. @preserve-rebuild and revdep-rebuild were quiet.

emerge -uatDv world brought up the original:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge       ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5  USE="dbus gstreamer gtk ncurses nls 
spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -idn -
meanwhile -mxit -networkmanager -perl -prediction -python -sasl -silc -tcl -tk 
-zephyr -zeroconf" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
[nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 
[ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] 
USE="introspection ldap policykit -debug -gtk -orbit%" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 0 kB

unless I add media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf and gnome-base/gconf in 
package.mask


I tried printing from kmail to a pdf file (not near a printer yet), and it 
worked fine with Kmail offering the familiar KDE print manager GUI.  There is 
no print manager settings menu option in KDE settings; well I use E17 as a DE 
so without booting into the KDE desktop I don't know what may be available 
there that is not visible from within E17.

There is a CUPS "Manage Printing" menu entry though, which fires up a browser 
with locahost:631 in the address bar.  :-)
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Walter Dnes]

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 04:44:27PM +0000, Mick wrote

> emerge -uatDv world brought up the original:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [nomerge       ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5  USE="dbus gstreamer
> gtk ncurses nls spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds
> -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -idn - meanwhile -mxit -networkmanager
> -perl -prediction -python -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr -zeroconf"
> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"
> [nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 
> [ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] 
> USE="introspection ldap policykit -debug -gtk -orbit%" 
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7%* -python2_6%" 0 kB
> 
> unless I add media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf and gnome-base/gconf in 
> package.mask

  Out of sheer curiousity, what needs gnome-base/gconf?  To find out...

equery d gnome-base/gconf

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 19:52:57 -0500
"Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 04:44:27PM +0000, Mick wrote
> 
> > [nomerge       ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5
> > [nomerge       ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 
> > [ebuild     U  ]   gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] 
> 
> Out of sheer curiousity, what needs gnome-base/gconf?

The output tells you; pidgin needs gst-plugins-gconf, which needs gconf.

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