From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1REzjO-0006G9-4M for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:36:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C09E921C08A; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E356721C02E for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Oct 2011 08:35:12 -0000 Received: from p5B085C58.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.92.88] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 15 Oct 2011 10:35:12 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19bvzBQn3hb1/hO7Vu0iG27I5viLjKoRfiT8MFGuj uRj0iJqHqFSOAe From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:35:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1474337.CKuYS0Cz6D@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.2 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 02950b9781cae74be34c76bbacf8ed5c Hi Canek, On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s =20 wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote= : > >> Pandu Poluan wrote: > >>=20 > >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: > >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>>>> A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / > >>>>> again. :-P>>>>=20 > >>>> Jeez, 43 years on and you're still going on about it... > >>>=20 > >>> Dang, I was only a year old when hal came out? That just doubled= my > >>> age. It's closer to what I feel like tho. > >>>=20 > >>> I'm still not happy with /usr being required tho. That is still > >>> standing on a bad nerve. Don't worry tho, I got plenty of those > >>> bad nerves. :-P>>=20 > >> Do you know that there's a plan to move /var/run to / also? ;-) > >>=20 > >> Rgds, > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Now someone on here swears up and down that /var isn't going to be= > >> required on /. > >=20 > > /var !=3D /var/run > > /var !=3D /var/lock > >=20 > > /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contai= ns > > things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/l= ock > > also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowledged this from the ver= y > > beginning, and I have been pointing out that implying that because > > those two (really small and bounded) directories of /var are going > > into /run and /run/lock, it doesn't mean that the whole /var will g= o > > into /. That is disinformation. >=20 > I finally found the link (got confused by gmane interface): >=20 > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/246892 >=20 > Quoting myself (from more than one month ago): >=20 > "Saying that proposing /run and /lock to be available at boot time > means that in the future a separated /var partition could be not > supported is, in my book, disinformation. /var/run and /var/lock (by > definition) are almost empty (in space). /var/lib usually stores whol= e > databases. The difference is important and relevant." and you still did not look into /var/lib to see, what is actually in th= ere? My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more there that= are=20 not databases at all. Stop spreading this misinformation, please. > Regards. Best, Michael