From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QbG1Q-0007nI-BR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:54:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E7DD1C015; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B9B1C015 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh22 with SMTP id 22so2064081wyh.40 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=f8R+nq/wqOkULN5lxQc5kWhH1uowVkzID4EK4+A0IHU=; b=VgsCAkfAh0zvTltwg36r/VUHe5SHIJXpwxp6uT1ZmszataaN/tujHApzycOpOfZoWs FTCN1+qX9GLYtzmq0iSQXsF0gcSKzCLLoMyGFv8veIWxLf7+pymIAceXfWMW5GVDPqpR a0mi/UVAPDFS2yRmOWwnm/+CBcEX0l8cJ7VJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=s4Kp79IYAcEZYPe7ItTxt6vthwiZdm0gwvpkNQUfRSE6+ECdguH06WUqMFnSkmOqIe WCVKyUFJWP8rRzVdinn6TNH0bu3bStOHGnbw8+FS79lc5aI78qxfos34PvokYrHLwnCc b7N7l+YC81u38Yza9jrdJmSkRSifoN7qXeN/I= Received: by 10.216.59.148 with SMTP id s20mr5515101wec.67.1309197200247; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-183-215.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.183.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l53sm2897650weq.23.2011.06.27.10.53.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:53:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] open source monitoring on gentoo Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:52:11 +0200 Message-ID: <1451410.TNjbug7ugX@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.6.0 (Linux/2.6.39-ck; KDE/4.6.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <201106271733.56000.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <4E0455CA.4040600@xunil.at> <4E083502.40409@xunil.at> <201106271733.56000.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 20607371d1debbbad207e526ccb4af90 On Monday 27 June 2011 17:33:45 Mick did opine thusly: > On Monday 27 Jun 2011 08:45:06 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > thanks to all for your suggestion. > > Still not sure where to turn ... > > > > Stefan > > We can't know which one may best match your > needs/expectations/preferences. You can spend some time looking at > their documentation to get an understanding of how difficult it may > be to configure them and then play with their online demos to > experience the touch & feel of each. > > Then install the one that best matches your requirements and if your > don't like it enough install the second best and so on. If you are > prepared to get your hands dirty you can somewhat customise the > look and feel (e.g. using CSS), but the monitoring engine is what > will provide you with the necessary functionality. > > Personally, I ended up using Nagios because at the time it had a > load of plugins that others did not. Once I spent a lot of time > installing graphing engines and configuring it, I had invested too > much time to ditch it and try something different. > > Thankfully, you can start afresh your quest and evaluate how each of > these tools meets your requirements. We're going through the same research nightmare. Our conclusions: 1. Nothing out there just does everything a large network would really want. 2. Some projects have very stable code but not much plugins, others have lots of plugins but the dev model leads to unstable code 3. Monitoring is NOT off the shelf, it is highly bespoke 4. Regardless of what you choose you will go through X effort to get it going and Y effort to get it to do what you want. The value is Y is amazingly similar regardless of the project (given that the starting code is at least somewhat mature). iow, your comments are right on the money, that is indeed how to do it. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com