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From: <burlingk@cv63.navy.mil>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:38:13 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14178ED3A898524FB036966D696494FB138F1E@messenger.cv63.navy.mil> (raw)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Armin Hemmann 
> [mailto:volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:19 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
> 
> 
> On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
> 
> > I believe that even Linus - who is noted for his long-standing 
> > opposition to v3 - would change his mind were he to 
> experience this. 
> > "They're using the operating system _I_ wrote to lock me out of _my 
> > own_ router?!?!?!?"
> 
> Linus has said it several times that he was ok with the thing 
> Tivo did.
> 
> And Tivo is the reason for that clause in GPLv3.
> -- 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

TiVo took code, incorporated it into a product, and put the
modified sources online so people could see them.  The sources
were heavily modified for a specialized device, but they were
provided.  They did not allow modified, and therefore potentially
Compromised, devices connect to their network.

This does not sound like theft of code, it sounds like sound network
protocol.  If you wish to maintain a secure environment that is stable
for thousands of users, and has a lot of money riding on it, you do
not allow compromised devices to connect.  It is that simple.

The TiVo thing was completely within the word and spirit of the GPL.
It is sad that many zealots seem to interpret the texts otherwise.

I should not be surprised since many people treat the Free Software
movement as a religion for all practical purposes.  In every religion
you will find interpretations and possible corruptions of the groups
texts.

--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list



             reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-17 17:38 burlingk [this message]
2007-07-17 17:27 ` [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 12:38   ` Alan McKinnon
2007-07-18 14:13     ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:15     ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 13:48 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:33   ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 14:37 burlingk
2007-07-19  6:13 burlingk
2007-07-19  5:59 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19  5:54 burlingk
2007-07-18 11:07 burlingk
2007-07-18 12:29 ` Dan Cowsill
2007-07-18  4:26 burlingk
2007-07-18  4:18 burlingk
2007-07-17 17:57 burlingk
2007-07-18 13:51 ` Stroller
2007-07-17 12:12 burlingk
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-17 10:14 burlingk
2007-07-17 10:42 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-17 11:01 ` Graham Murray
2007-07-17 12:48   ` Stroller
2007-07-17 16:19     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 13:13       ` Stroller
2007-07-18 17:40         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 18:10           ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 22:34           ` Stroller
2007-07-18 23:48             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-19  0:41               ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19  2:10                 ` Stroller
2007-07-19  1:58               ` Stroller
2007-07-17 17:14 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 19:29   ` Mike Edenfield
2007-07-16  0:52 burlingk
2007-07-16 12:15 ` Mark Shields
2007-07-16 21:53   ` Jerry McBride
2007-07-17  1:26     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17  1:59       ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17  1:26   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17  2:08     ` Henk Boom
2007-07-13 22:11 Jerry McBride
2007-07-13 22:27 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-18  9:28 ` b.n.
2007-07-18 16:23   ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

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