From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0751381F3 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45840E0A7F; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de (mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.5.186]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13184E0A63 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:17:59 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,1063,1371074400"; d="scan'208";a="240885101" Received: from relay-2.ms.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO relay.rwth-aachen.de) ([134.130.7.75]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 14:17:59 +0200 Received: from numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de (numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.161.252]) by relay.rwth-aachen.de (8.14.4+Sun/8.13.8/1) with ESMTP id r99CHxuG018209 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:17:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from numa-i (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7083116 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:18:01 +0200 From: Helmut Jarausch Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20131009034625.GC875@ca.inter.net> <20131008224532.1e5d4155@khumba.net> <20131009121341.GF875@ca.inter.net> In-Reply-To: <20131009121341.GF875@ca.inter.net> (from purslow@ca.inter.net on Wed Oct 9 14:13:41 2013) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.5.1-75-g9ac8512 Message-Id: <1381321081.16633.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 5552ec68-910f-466e-a7e9-d421f3b12f9a X-Archives-Hash: 1b44133a1282f7e333d58b1c450a2426 On 10/09/2013 02:13:41 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 131008 Khumba wrote: > > 131008 Philip Webb wrote: > >> A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of =20 > deps. > >> Everything seems to be working normally since then, > >> but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie > >> 131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers] > >> 131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose] > >> 131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose] > >> Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms. > > x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r1 here. > > I still have those packages; they're pulled in by x11-base/xorg-x11, > > which is the main Xorg meta-package that pulls in xorg-server. >=20 > Yes : I install them individually & don't use the meta. >=20 > > As for whether you need them, I think that's your call. > > I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11 in a while, > > but lots of those utilities are useful : xkill, xrandr ... . >=20 > What are they useful for ? -- I can't do 'man' as they're not =20 > installed > & 'eix' simply shows the same URL for each ; is there anywhere I can =20 > look ? >=20 What about googling for "xkill linux". E.g. xkill sometimes is the only possiblity to kill a process which =20 keeps a window open. Just enter xkill in an XTerm, it will ask you to click into the window =20 which you want to close. Helmut =