From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA771381F3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2DA1E09BA; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com (mail-pb0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F433E08C2 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 04:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id rr13so7873586pbb.6 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:24:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:content-type :x-mailer:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsAni/8Woi5EfFgLey5LhEnPKFvrCt5HG3gtIpKFrcc=; b=gI6N/R1+rDm/k7CVSuFUJUxxcS1OjdHMvESGmFSsNu1V41Vab3Jq1kQdb+Lw6fHHuK 2LHzPHM5IUlkHgI79FwyXl6gwD1yrvmDtzCqLs+It5u+Dp0Xiltey+oA5PwE/0cjkMnt crLWXNjq9AhruF9TiUh5TBoUaKIWFJctEDn3Fwir5qtJ5WXCzN0YY9YaLh5XuMiEqS4A XCoppKxjY2Fh3dLWXz9v35HhsGj0wt1MBAZwIJe7lByt8OFiwMoB7kX4FtSC2LHco35b 8b0xNDphH9t9wcsiW6YgFX8i48mINJrmggl2PncmVP/CnvjESkRaJ1TLyhHZou5hDBWr Fizg== X-Received: by 10.68.163.131 with SMTP id yi3mr34579779pbb.55.1374553483496; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.165] (c-24-6-133-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.6.133.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id il4sm39175756pbb.36.2013.07.22.21.24.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1374553476.25784.8.camel@siegeengine> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch? From: Mark Pariente To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:24:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 544fa9e7-6141-4421-98a2-d26d8a6827ff X-Archives-Hash: 4134244ab628f64feda0de666a5a831b On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 17:14 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > yeah, because it is so great to have that monster systemd on your box. > Because xml configs are awesome and binary logs even more and I always > wanted an init with builtin webbrowser. Security? bah, not needed. > > > So when do I have to install mysql to use it? How long until some crap > ala windows-registry is forced down my throat? Nobody is forcing you to use anything. These are all upstream (GNOME, freedestkop) decisions, you can't expect them to maintain code that doesn't follow their technical direction. If you don't like it you can fork or go use/contribute to other projects all you want. This is the power of open source, no one can take choice away from you, they can just make your choice a lot harder to realize. --Mark