From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R11Hr-0004eG-33 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:26:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7439021C342; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AA0021C28B for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Sep 2011 19:20:33 -0000 Received: from p5B0843EA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.67.234] by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 06 Sep 2011 21:20:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+GkoEUFNmGujm440AE8wh2+CKjKYMJaeU+xu88fu RITYz7zOPokNy4 From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:20:36 +0200 Message-ID: <1371422.3hVCbVQ0qx@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20110906185725.GG9867@acm.acm> References: <87ehzuiu1y.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> <20110906185725.GG9867@acm.acm> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 835844380ab9348356a42f45db758f9d Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 18:57:25 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > Hi, Canek. >=20 > On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 02:22:44PM -0400, Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wro= te: > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > >> > However, I use lprng, not cups. It's good that we have a > > >> > choice over what software we use, isn't it? ;-( > > >>=20 > > >> It could be that IPP is just becoming the preferred protocol, an= d > > >> other print queue managing protocols are going the way of Gopher= . > > >=20 > > > Preferred by whom? Firefox, for example, manages lprng just fine= . > > > It's really not a big deal supporting an extra spooler interface= , > > > particularly a simple one. > >=20 > > Because, as "simple" as it could be, it's another one. Big projects= > > need to support CUPS, because they need to work for everyone (or as= > > many as possible). It makes no sense *at all* to support more print= ing > > systems. >=20 > It enables more people to use it. Yes. that's you and...? All binary distros use cups for printing. I would think, most gentoo us= ers do=20 the same. The BSDs, I know of, use cups. MacOS uses it. It works for Wi= ndows- Clients. There are IPP-Servers for Windows. What was your argument agai= n? > The support for lpr exists. It's being removed, for some reason. Gi= ven > that printing works by constructing a postscript equivalent of the th= ing > being printed, just how difficult can it be to squirt this postscript= > down lpr rather than the cups equivalent? How long does it take to w= rite > a C++ `if' statement? I get it. You have no idea how software development at such a large sca= le=20 works. > > And again, it's Open Source. If there is enough demand, someone wil= l > > write support for other printing systems. Just don't assume that an= y > > project (being LibreOffice or Gentoo) need to support your choices > > besides the most used one. >=20 > Again the code already exists, it's merely a matter of not destroying= it. This code needs to be supported and maintained for literally no good re= ason.=20 If you think, that's no work at all, just volunteer for the task. > I became a user based on it supporting a standard printing system, an= d > it's perfectly reasonable for me to expect that support to continue. No, it's not, unless you are willing to do the additional work. Michael