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From: Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild?
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:20:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371422.3hVCbVQ0qx@pc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110906185725.GG9867@acm.acm>

Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 18:57:25 schrieb Alan Mackenzie:
> Hi, Canek.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 02:22:44PM -0400, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
> > >> > However, I use lprng, not cups.  It's good that we have a
> > >> > choice over what software we use, isn't it?  ;-(
> > >> 
> > >> It could be that IPP is just becoming the preferred protocol, and
> > >> other print queue managing protocols are going the way of Gopher.
> > > 
> > > Preferred by whom?  Firefox, for example, manages lprng just fine.
> > >  It's really not a big deal supporting an extra spooler interface,
> > > particularly a simple one.
> > 
> > Because, as "simple" as it could be, it's another one. Big projects
> > need to support CUPS, because they need to work for everyone (or as
> > many as possible). It makes no sense *at all* to support more printing
> > systems.
> 
> It enables more people to use it.

Yes. that's you and...?
All binary distros use cups for printing. I would think, most gentoo users do 
the same. The BSDs, I know of, use cups. MacOS uses it. It works for Windows-
Clients. There are IPP-Servers for Windows. What was your argument again?

> The support for lpr exists.  It's being removed, for some reason.  Given
> that printing works by constructing a postscript equivalent of the thing
> being printed, just how difficult can it be to squirt this postscript
> down lpr rather than the cups equivalent?  How long does it take to write
> a C++ `if' statement?

I get it. You have no idea how software development at such a large scale 
works.

> > And again, it's Open Source. If there is enough demand, someone will
> > write support for other printing systems. Just don't assume that any
> > project (being LibreOffice or Gentoo) need to support your choices
> > besides the most used one.
> 
> Again the code already exists, it's merely a matter of not destroying it.

This code needs to be supported and maintained for literally no good reason. 
If you think, that's no work at all, just volunteer for the task.

> I became a user based on it supporting a standard printing system, and
> it's perfectly reasonable for me to expect that support to continue.

No, it's not, unless you are willing to do the additional work.

Michael




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-06 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05 21:00 [gentoo-user] What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? Graham Murray
2011-09-05 21:16 ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-05 21:34 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-05 22:47   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-05 23:07     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-06  1:51   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06  2:03     ` Brennan Shacklett
2011-09-06  9:12     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-06 10:07       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 11:07         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-06 11:20           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-07  7:56             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-07  9:09               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 20:27         ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-06 22:24           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 11:25       ` Stroller
2011-09-06 13:20         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 15:50         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 16:01           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 16:17             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 16:20             ` Dale
2011-09-06 21:05               ` Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 21:54                 ` Dale
2011-09-06 22:35                   ` Hartmut Figge
2011-09-06 23:34                     ` Dale
2011-09-06 16:59             ` David W Noon
2011-09-06 15:59         ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 15:27       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06  2:19   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 14:16     ` Dale
2011-09-06 15:57     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 16:16       ` Dale
2011-09-06 16:28         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 16:28         ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 16:45           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 19:21             ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 16:49           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 17:02             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 17:55               ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 18:22                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 18:57                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 19:16                     ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-06 19:20                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer [this message]
2011-09-06 19:20                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 20:22                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 19:21                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 19:29                     ` James Broadhead
2011-09-06 20:46                     ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-09-06 18:23                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 18:43                 ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 16:54           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 16:43       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 17:03         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 17:48           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 18:18             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 21:12               ` Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 21:24                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 21:34                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 21:26                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 21:35                 ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 21:52                   ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-06 22:30                     ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 22:37                       ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 22:48                       ` Big Firefox (Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild?) Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 22:39                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? Hartmut Figge
2011-09-06 23:31                       ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-06 23:56                         ` Dale
2011-09-07  0:09                           ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-07  0:12                           ` Hartmut Figge
2011-09-06 22:43                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 22:58                       ` Brennan Shacklett
2011-09-06 22:59                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 22:53                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-11 12:55                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-11 13:06                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11 13:32                       ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-11 20:17                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-11 21:27                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-06 18:40             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 19:19             ` pk

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