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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem with xf86-video-ati & nvidia-drivers
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:01:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1369988.ypqAZSTIHU@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN0CFw0GHHCZo5k89LS5DnQUE1xEkoH78uWrPN9HGHmaswzh0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Sunday 17 July 2011 09:54:33 Grant wrote:
> >>>> I gave it a try but there was no change.  I tried plugging the TV
> >>>> and
> >>>> computer into a power strip and also into an isolation
> >>>> transformer.
> >>>> Any other ideas?
> >>> 
> >>> I still think it's a driver problem.  Again: it's *physically*
> >>> impossible to
> >>> have these problems with the HDMI signal.  At most you get "digital
> >>> noise",
> >>> which means some pixels get stuck or are missing.  But not what you
> >>> get; that's just something that can't be explained.
> >> 
> >> I was thinking about this.  The digital HDMI signal must be converted
> >> into an analog signal at some point if it's being represented as light
> >> on a TV screen.  Electrical interference generated by the computer and
> >> traveling up the HDMI wire should have its chance to affect things
> >> (i.e. create weird shadows) at that point, right?
> > 
> > Not with DFPs.  Those work digital even internally.  I assume of course
> > that his HDMI TV *is* a DFP.
> 
> But at some point the 1s and 0s must be converted to some sort of an
> analog signal if only right behind the diode.  A diode must be
> presented with a signal in some sort of analog form in order to
> illuminate, right?

no.

If your tv is a standard flat panel, the sub pixels only go from on to off and 
back. Nothing else. There is no analog signal, no transformation nothing. And 
off means 'let light through' and on 'black'

If you have an led display it is pretty much the same. All the levels you see 
are achieved with fast switching. There are no analog levels.

Stroller is probably correct with overscan/underscan.

But that has nothing to do with digital/analog conversion.


> Digital is just a figment of our imagination after
> all.

emm, no, seriously not.

-- 
#163933



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-19  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-09 23:21 [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati & nvidia-drivers Grant
2011-07-10  0:20 ` meino.cramer
2011-07-11 23:48   ` Grant
2011-07-12 22:33     ` Grant
2011-07-13  2:27       ` meino.cramer
2011-07-13 15:55         ` Roger Mason
2011-07-13 16:17           ` meino.cramer
2011-07-13 17:13         ` Grant
2011-07-13 17:38           ` meino.cramer
2011-07-14 19:44             ` Grant
2011-07-14 20:07               ` Michael Mol
2011-07-14 23:29                 ` Grant
2011-07-14 20:23               ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-14 23:30                 ` Grant
2011-07-17 16:22                 ` Grant
2011-07-17 16:47                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-17 16:54                     ` Grant
2011-07-17 21:53                       ` Michael Mol
2011-07-17 23:28                         ` Grant
2011-07-18 13:18                       ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2011-07-18 22:52                         ` Grant
2011-07-19  0:56                           ` Grant
2011-07-19 16:03                             ` Daniel Frey
2011-07-19 19:41                               ` Grant
2011-07-19 21:00                                 ` Mick
2011-07-20 18:38                                   ` Grant
2011-07-20 14:29                                 ` Stroller
2011-07-20 15:29                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-07-19  2:01                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2011-07-19 20:35                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
2011-07-19 20:54                           ` Michael Mol
2011-07-20 21:22                             ` Grant
2011-07-13  7:19       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-13 17:27         ` Grant
2011-07-13  7:13 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-13 12:25   ` Mick
2011-07-13 14:42     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-13 16:36       ` Mick
2011-07-16 16:22       ` Mick
2011-07-13 17:23   ` Grant
2011-07-14  6:13     ` Nikos Chantziaras

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