From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0F031382C5 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2018 08:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF38CE0A64; Sat, 3 Feb 2018 08:43:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost03d.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03d.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B5F4E0964 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2018 08:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=peak.localnet) by smarthost03d.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ehtPe-0005hc-4P for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 08:43:06 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 08:43:05 +0000 Message-ID: <13680487.kIYMBCd6zf@peak> In-Reply-To: References: <2979311.yKovLQH099@peak> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-smarthost03d-IP: [82.69.80.10] Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10 X-Archives-Salt: c50796c5-d80b-4606-b9f7-30f5176529f9 X-Archives-Hash: 5b2d4cc4c0505907e87536ce517e0213 On Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:19:08 GMT Wol's lists wrote: > On 02/02/18 00:08, Jack wrote: > > >> "eg", which, phonetically, is the start of the word "example". > > > > > > A non-native speaker of English, or a non-native speaker of Latin? > > And Latin's descendants (which are mutually comprehensible) are actually > the most widely spoken first language in Europe. I always thought Europe > should adopt Modern Latin (however you care to define it) as its main > official language. > > (Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian put together are very similar and are > larger than any other grouping of similar European language, excluding > perhaps Russian which is spoken mostly by non-EU nationals.) I believe those languages, the ones descended from Latin, are called romance languages, and yes, they do have common features such as pronunciation of vowels. Having so many words derived via French from Latin, English is also a romance language to some extent. I know it's officially classed as a Germanic language, but I can't see why. There seems to be no Teutonic influence to speak of. Few words in common, very different sentence structure, ... -- Regards, Peter.