[gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[meino.cramer]

Hi,

due the lack of space on my desktop I decided to add a Perixx
Peripad 501 Track Pad to my Gentoo Linux.

The device came neither with a userguide nor a driver. The according
webpage of Perixx does not offer both.

According to Xorg.0.log and without any additional tasks, X11 recognized this pad as
[    24.595] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Mouse Pad (/dev/input/event1)
[    24.595] (**) Mouse Pad: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[    24.595] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'Mouse Pad'
[    24.596] (**) Mouse Pad: always reports core events
[    24.596] (**) evdev: Mouse Pad: Device: "/dev/input/event1"
[    24.596] (--) evdev: Mouse Pad: Vendor 0x99a Product 0xa002
[    24.596] (--) evdev: Mouse Pad: Found 3 mouse buttons
[    24.596] (--) evdev: Mouse Pad: Found scroll wheel(s)
[    24.596] (--) evdev: Mouse Pad: Found relative axes
[    24.596] (--) evdev: Mouse Pad: Found x and y relative axes
[    24.596] (II) evdev: Mouse Pad: Configuring as mouse
[    24.596] (II) evdev: Mouse Pad: Adding scrollwheel support
[    24.597] (**) evdev: Mouse Pad: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[    24.597] (**) evdev: Mouse Pad: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[    24.597] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/platform/omap/musb-ti81xx/musb-hdrc.1/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/input/input1/event1"
[    24.597] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse Pad" (type: MOUSE, id 7)
[    24.597] (II) evdev: Mouse Pad: initialized for relative axes.
[    24.599] (**) Mouse Pad: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[    24.599] (**) Mouse Pad: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[    24.599] (**) Mouse Pad: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    24.599] (**) Mouse Pad: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[    24.601] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Mouse Pad (/dev/input/mouse0)
[    24.601] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[    24.601] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.

"It works": That is: I can move the cursor arround and I can perform
clicks by tapping on the pad. The mechanical present buttons will be
recognized as button 1 and button 3.
As far as I can see from the output of xev, double tapping on the pad
will also be recognized as button 1.

But the log tells me of "three button mouse" and "adding scrollwheel
support"...

I googled for any information but beside a massive presence of
"Synaptics" stuff there was no information I can use...

How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the
log file?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards,
mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[Randy Barlow]

On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the
> log file?

I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggestion: does it
respond to multitouch gestures? For example, with my trackpad on my
T530, I can scroll by swiping up and down with two fingers. Does that
work?

-- 
R

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[meino.cramer]

Randy Barlow <randy@electronsweatshop.com> [13-04-06 17:24]:
> On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the
> > log file?
> 
> I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggestion: does it
> respond to multitouch gestures? For example, with my trackpad on my
> T530, I can scroll by swiping up and down with two fingers. Does that
> work?
> 
> -- 
> R
> 
> 

Hi Randy,

thank you for your reply! :)

I tried that ... but with no luck. 

The device is advertised with:

Product Feature:
- Cirque Glidepoint Technology
- High reliable micro-switches
- 2 buttons mouse clicker attached
- you could also use your finger tip to tap the touchpad. for ex: 2 taps = double click, 2 fingers tap = scroll, 3 fingers tap = Right Click
- USB interface connector
- One touch scrolling

I tried that...beside the most simple action nothing works. Since
there was no driver delivered with the device and no user guide,
I think "plug and pray" should do the magic...._should_

"One touch scrolling" and "2 fingers tap = scroll" is a
contradiction, isn't it?

Is there anything I have to configure (xorg.conf?) additionally?

Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Best regards,
mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[meino.cramer]

meino.cramer@gmx.de <meino.cramer@gmx.de> [13-04-06 18:52]:
> Randy Barlow <randy@electronsweatshop.com> [13-04-06 17:24]:
> > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the
> > > log file?
> > 
> > I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggestion: does it
> > respond to multitouch gestures? For example, with my trackpad on my
> > T530, I can scroll by swiping up and down with two fingers. Does that
> > work?
> > 
> > -- 
> > R
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hi Randy,
> 
> thank you for your reply! :)
> 
> I tried that ... but with no luck. 
> 
> The device is advertised with:
> 
> Product Feature:
> - Cirque Glidepoint Technology
> - High reliable micro-switches
> - 2 buttons mouse clicker attached
> - you could also use your finger tip to tap the touchpad. for ex: 2 taps = double click, 2 fingers tap = scroll, 3 fingers tap = Right Click
> - USB interface connector
> - One touch scrolling
> 
> I tried that...beside the most simple action nothing works. Since
> there was no driver delivered with the device and no user guide,
> I think "plug and pray" should do the magic...._should_
> 
> "One touch scrolling" and "2 fingers tap = scroll" is a
> contradiction, isn't it?
> 
> Is there anything I have to configure (xorg.conf?) additionally?
> 
> Thank you very much for any help in advance!
> Best regards,
> mcc
> 
> 
> 
> 

Hi,

found something:

A review on www.amazon.com of this device states, that the EasyCat
manual is useable when it comes to the tap/click/scroll behaviour/
useage of the PERIXX PERIPAD 501.
Vie google I found cirquecattouchpadguide_revf.pdf which clearifies
the needed geatures.

For scrolling one has to move ONE finger on the right edge of the
pad.

And it scrolls!

BUT unfortunately the scrollevents ALWAYS reach the taskbar and I am
warped through my desktops regardless of the focus a certain windows
has.

This even happens, when the cursor and the focus is on the window
of xev, with which I tried to catch the even.

How can I "channelize" the events to the focussed window?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!
Best regards,
mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[Randy Barlow]

On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 19:49 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> For scrolling one has to move ONE finger on the right edge of the
> pad.
> 
> And it scrolls!
> 
> BUT unfortunately the scrollevents ALWAYS reach the taskbar and I am
> warped through my desktops regardless of the focus a certain windows
> has.
> 
> This even happens, when the cursor and the focus is on the window
> of xev, with which I tried to catch the even.
> 
> How can I "channelize" the events to the focussed window?

This is very unexpected behavior. I'd be very surprised if the hardware
is capable of causing this behavior, unless it is somehow sending a set
of keyboard shortcuts that correspond to switching desktops.

I'd bet that if you are having that problem, a normal mouse's
scrollwheel would cause the exact same problem. Do you have a normal USB
mouse that you can try that with?

If the problem happens with a USB mouse as well, I'd guess that
something is configured strangely in your desktop environment's
settings. If the USB mouse behaves normally, I guess something must be
really weird about that touchpad, but I'm not sure what it would be.

-- 
R

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[Mick]

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On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 18:49:31 meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> meino.cramer@gmx.de <meino.cramer@gmx.de> [13-04-06 18:52]:
> > Randy Barlow <randy@electronsweatshop.com> [13-04-06 17:24]:
> > > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by
> > > > the log file?
> > > 
> > > I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggestion: does it
> > > respond to multitouch gestures? For example, with my trackpad on my
> > > T530, I can scroll by swiping up and down with two fingers. Does that
> > > work?
> > 
> > Hi Randy,
> > 
> > thank you for your reply! :)
> > 
> > I tried that ... but with no luck.
> > 
> > The device is advertised with:
> > 
> > Product Feature:
> > - Cirque Glidepoint Technology
> > - High reliable micro-switches
> > - 2 buttons mouse clicker attached
> > - you could also use your finger tip to tap the touchpad. for ex: 2 taps
> > = double click, 2 fingers tap = scroll, 3 fingers tap = Right Click -
> > USB interface connector
> > - One touch scrolling
> > 
> > I tried that...beside the most simple action nothing works. Since
> > there was no driver delivered with the device and no user guide,
> > I think "plug and pray" should do the magic...._should_
> > 
> > "One touch scrolling" and "2 fingers tap = scroll" is a
> > contradiction, isn't it?
> > 
> > Is there anything I have to configure (xorg.conf?) additionally?
> > 
> > Thank you very much for any help in advance!
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
> 
> Hi,
> 
> found something:
> 
> A review on www.amazon.com of this device states, that the EasyCat
> manual is useable when it comes to the tap/click/scroll behaviour/
> useage of the PERIXX PERIPAD 501.
> Vie google I found cirquecattouchpadguide_revf.pdf which clearifies
> the needed geatures.
> 
> For scrolling one has to move ONE finger on the right edge of the
> pad.
> 
> And it scrolls!
> 
> BUT unfortunately the scrollevents ALWAYS reach the taskbar and I am
> warped through my desktops regardless of the focus a certain windows
> has.
> 
> This even happens, when the cursor and the focus is on the window
> of xev, with which I tried to catch the even.
> 
> How can I "channelize" the events to the focussed window?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance for any help!
> Best regards,
> mcc

Did you try taping once (or twice in quick succession - double click) to 
select an application window first?

Do you get a different scroll event if instead of moving your finger up/down 
on the right edge of the pad, or left/right at the bottom end of the pad, you 
move up/down two fingers apart from each other?

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

[Randy Barlow]

On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 18:48 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> "One touch scrolling" and "2 fingers tap = scroll" is a
> contradiction, isn't it?

Haha, yeah it is confusing sounding. Perhaps one touch scrolling means
you can scroll by using a single finger on the right side of the pad? A
lot of trackpads work that way, or can be configured to work that way.

> Is there anything I have to configure (xorg.conf?) additionally?

I remember there being some kind of "z axis" setting, or something
perhaps a little along those lines in xorg.conf. To be honest, it's been
years since I last did anything with an xorg.conf since the modern Xorg
is much better at automatically configuring itself, so I'm afraid I
can't help you much in that department.

One way that might be easy but depends on your desktop environment, is
to check if there is an easy to use setting provided by your DE that can
configure two finger scrolling. For example, I'm currently using Gnome
3.6 in Fedora (yeah, not Gentoo, but I'm on my work computer :) ) and I
have a "Two finger scroll" checkbox in the "Mouse & Touchpad" section of
the System Settings program. There's also a checkbox for "Tap to click".
I use Gnome 2 stable on my home Gentoo computer, and I *think* it may
have something similar, but I'm not there to verify (and it's a desktop
computer with no trackpad so I've never used that feature there.)

I used to use KDE in Gentoo at my previous job, and I believe it had
something similar in its settings but I don't have any current KDE
installs to check it with.

If you aren't using either of those, perhaps your DE provides something
like that too. If not, perhaps someone else on here will chime in :)

> Thank you very much for any help in advance!

No problem, and apologies that it's not super complete. I'm more of a
backend kind of dude, so my familiarity with DE stuff is mostly from a
user's perspective (i.e., GUI configuration).

-- 
Randy Barlow