[gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,
this is nuissance all the time.

Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try

emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree  --with-bdeps y @system  
@world >/root/UPD

But many times this stops prematurely with messages like

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy  
">=app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.0"

How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in  
the end?

Many thanks for hint,
Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Francisco Ares]

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2012/11/30 Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>

> Hi,
> this is nuissance all the time.
>
> Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try
>
> emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree  --with-bdeps y @system @world
> >/root/UPD
>
> But many times this stops prematurely with messages like
>
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ">=app-text/poppler-bindings-**
> 0.5.0"
>
> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in the
> end?
>
> Many thanks for hint,
> Helmut.
>
>
>
Check the option --keep-going , but you will not have all messages at the
end, as far as I remember. If so, you can redirect the output to a file.

Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Michael Mol]

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On Nov 30, 2012 7:29 AM, "Helmut Jarausch" <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> this is nuissance all the time.
>
> Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try
>
> emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree  --with-bdeps y @system @world
>/root/UPD
>
> But many times this stops prematurely with messages like
>
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy
">=app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.0"
>
> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in the
end?
>
> Many thanks for hint,
> Helmut.
>
>

--keep-going

:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Dale]

Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
> this is nuissance all the time.
>
> Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try
>
> emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree  --with-bdeps y @system @world
> >/root/UPD
>
> But many times this stops prematurely with messages like
>
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy
> ">=app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.0"
>
> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in
> the end?
>
> Many thanks for hint,
> Helmut.
>
>
>


This should help.  From man emerge:

--keep-going [ y | n ]
Continue as much as possible after an error. When an error occurs,
dependencies are recalculated for remaining packages and any with
unsatisfied  dependencies  are  automatically dropped. Also see the
related --skipfirst option.

You can also add that to make.conf if you want that all the time.  There
are times when emerge can't continue but if it can, it will. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Yohan Pereira]

On Friday 30 Nov 2012 13:26:07 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>=app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.0"
> 
> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in
> the end?

Maybe --keep-going ? 
:)
-- 

- Yohan Pereira

The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
between a mermaid and a seal.
                -- Mark Twain

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[2sb7vwu]

> Hi,
> this is nuissance all the time.
> 
> Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try
> 
> emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree  --with-bdeps y @system
> @world >/root/UPD
> 
> But many times this stops prematurely with messages like
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy
> ">=app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.0"
> 
> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in
> the end?

Get
ANGRY
and
--keep-going
:)
> Many thanks for hint,
> Helmut.
yw

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 11/30/12 08:05, 2sb7vwu@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> this is nuissance all the time.
>>
>> Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try
>>
>> emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree  --with-bdeps y @system
>> @world >/root/UPD
>>
>> But many times this stops prematurely with messages like
>>
>> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy
>> ">=app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.0"
>>
>> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in
>> the end?
> 
> Get
> ANGRY
> and
> --keep-going
> :)

Now all we need is,

  emerge --i-dont-care

for when you have 100 packages ready to be updated and one stupid ruby
package has conflicting dependencies.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Keith Dart]

Re , Helmut Jarausch said:
> How can I keep emerge going and tell me these message all at once in  
> the end?


The --keep-going option, plus this in your make.conf:

PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="echo save"

Then emerge the elogv program.  Use that to view all the emerge logs at
the end.


-- Keith


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Helmut Jarausch]

Many thanks to all who helped me.

I didn't think of --keep-going having an effect if --pretend is active.
Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[2sb7vwu]

> 
> Now all we need is,
> 
>   emerge --i-dont-care
> 
> for when you have 100 packages ready to be updated and one stupid ruby
> package has conflicting dependencies.

I doubt if there is point to runaway from problms. In your case I'd say "keep 
calm and --keep-going" :)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Samstag, 1. Dezember 2012, 15:02:10 schrieb 2sb7vwu@gmail.com:
> > Now all we need is,
> > 
> >   emerge --i-dont-care
> > 
> > for when you have 100 packages ready to be updated and one stupid ruby
> > package has conflicting dependencies.
> 
> I doubt if there is point to runaway from problms. In your case I'd say
> "keep calm and --keep-going" :)

--keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start because of 
missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Graham Murray]

Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> writes:

> --keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start because of 
> missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever... 

Though it would be nice if there was some flag, probably mainly of use
with either ' -u @world' or --resume, to tell portage to get on and
merge what it can and leave any masked packages or those which would
generate blockers or conflicts. 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> --keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start because of
>> missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever...
>
> Though it would be nice if there was some flag, probably mainly of use
> with either ' -u @world' or --resume, to tell portage to get on and
> merge what it can and leave any masked packages or those which would
> generate blockers or conflicts.
>

emerge -fDuN @world

will both check/resolve dependencies as well as insure that all files
required to do the build are downloaded. I typically run this command
prior to emerging anything as I dislike coming back and hour later and
finding the emerge didn't finish because a file either couldn't be
downloaded or its manifest didn't check out.

Just an alternative way to do things.

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Samstag, 1. Dezember 2012, 12:19:17 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> 
wrote:
> > Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> writes:
> >> --keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start because of
> >> missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever...
> > 
> > Though it would be nice if there was some flag, probably mainly of use
> > with either ' -u @world' or --resume, to tell portage to get on and
> > merge what it can and leave any masked packages or those which would
> > generate blockers or conflicts.
> 
> emerge -fDuN @world
> 
> will both check/resolve dependencies as well as insure that all files
> required to do the build are downloaded. I typically run this command
> prior to emerging anything as I dislike coming back and hour later and
> finding the emerge didn't finish because a file either couldn't be
> downloaded or its manifest didn't check out.
> 
> Just an alternative way to do things.
> 
> HTH,
> Mark

that doesn't solve the problem I mentioned above.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:58:45 +0000
Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> wrote:

> Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> writes:
> 
> > --keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start
> > because of missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever... 
> 
> Though it would be nice if there was some flag, probably mainly of use
> with either ' -u @world' or --resume, to tell portage to get on and
> merge what it can and leave any masked packages or those which would
> generate blockers or conflicts. 
> 

That is a terribly bad idea, and you need to have a fairly deep
understanding of IT theory to see it (which is why so few people see
it). I don't know which camp you are in.

The command is to emerge world, and it's supposed to be determinate,
i.e. when it's ready to start you can tell what it's going to do, and
that should be what you told it to do, no more and no less[1]

the command is 
"emerge world"
not 
"emerge the-bits-of-world-you-think-you-can-deal-with"

If portage cannot emerge world and fully obey what root told it to do,
then portage correctly refuses to continue. It could not possibly be
any other way, as eg all automated build tools (puppet, chef and
friends, even flameeyes's sandbox) break horribly if you do it any
other way. Life is hard enough dealing with build failures without
adding portage do somethign different to what it was told into the mix.

[1] "determinate" excludes build failures, as those are not predictable.
Dep graph failures happen before the meaty work begins.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

[kwkhui]

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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:12:02 +0200
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:58:45 +0000
> Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> writes:
> > 
> > > --keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start
> > > because of missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever... 
> > 
> > Though it would be nice if there was some flag, probably mainly of
> > use with either ' -u @world' or --resume, to tell portage to get on
> > and merge what it can and leave any masked packages or those which
> > would generate blockers or conflicts. 
> > 
> 
> That is a terribly bad idea, and you need to have a fairly deep
> understanding of IT theory to see it (which is why so few people see
> it). I don't know which camp you are in.
> 
> The command is to emerge world, and it's supposed to be determinate,
> i.e. when it's ready to start you can tell what it's going to do, and
> that should be what you told it to do, no more and no less[1]
> 
> the command is 
> "emerge world"
> not 
> "emerge the-bits-of-world-you-think-you-can-deal-with"
> 
> If portage cannot emerge world and fully obey what root told it to do,
> then portage correctly refuses to continue. It could not possibly be
> any other way, as eg all automated build tools (puppet, chef and
> friends, even flameeyes's sandbox) break horribly if you do it any
> other way. Life is hard enough dealing with build failures without
> adding portage do somethign different to what it was told into the
> mix.
> 
> [1] "determinate" excludes build failures, as those are not
> predictable. Dep graph failures happen before the meaty work begins.
> 
> 
> 

While there are good reasons not to implement it in portage itself, you
can implement it with a bit of help from shell scripts telling portage
what to do.

Do an "emerge -uDpv world", use sed or awk or whatever to replace the
beginning [ebuild ...] and whatever come after the package
name&version, and finally loop "emerge -1 =${package}" for each package
in that list.  Now provided you discard the return value of emerge, if
such ${package} will give you something that portage doesn't think is a
good idea (e.g. unsatisfiable dependencies), the loop will go on to the
next package instead of completely halting.

The shell script is thus left as an exercise.

The usual warning applies:- it can be done doesn't necessarily mean it
is a good idea to do it.

Kerwin.

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