From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2024 13:55:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13464302.uLZWGnKmhe@iris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_m6s5BD5KVEzwFaYXQyXu5faXbWBAkcp=6n5rhcvm2tNg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma <thelma@sys-concept.com> wrote:
> > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is.
> > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux?
>
> The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is
> FOSS, but the license was basically designed to keep it from being
> incorporated into the mainline kernel.
Which isn't as much of an issue as it sounds. You can still add it into the
initramfs and can easily load the module.
And the code still works with the functions the kernel devs pushed behind the
GPL-wall if you simply remove that wall from your own kernel.
(Which is advisable as it will improve performance)
> The odd thing is that right now Oracle controls both ZFS and btrfs,
> with the latter doing mostly the same thing and being GPL-compatible,
> but it hasn't tended to be as stable. So we're in a really long
> transitional period to btrfs becoming as reliable.
After all this time, I have given up on waiting for btrfs. As mentioned in my
other reply, it's still nowhere near reliable.
> ZFS also cannot be shrunk as easily. I think that is something that
> has been improved more recently, but I'm not certain of the state of
> it. Also, bootloaders like grub aren't 100% compatible with all of
> its later features, and it isn't even clear in the docs which ones are
> and aren't supported. So it doesn't hurt to keep /boot off of zfs.
To make this easier, there is a compatiblity option when creating a new zpool.
It's also listed in the zfs-kmod ebuild:
- zpool create -o compatibility=*grub*2 ...
- Refer to /usr/share/zfs/compatibility.d/*grub*2 for list of features.
--
Joost
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-30 18:15 [gentoo-user] Suggestions for backup scheme? Grant Edwards
2024-01-30 18:47 ` Thelma
2024-01-30 19:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2024-01-30 18:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael
2024-01-30 19:32 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2024-01-30 19:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2024-01-30 19:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2024-01-30 20:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Wol
2024-01-30 20:15 ` Rich Freeman
2024-01-30 20:38 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2024-01-31 8:14 ` gentoo-user
2024-01-31 11:45 ` John Covici
2024-01-31 13:01 ` Rich Freeman
2024-01-31 15:50 ` Grant Edwards
2024-01-31 17:40 ` Thelma
2024-01-31 17:56 ` Rich Freeman
2024-01-31 18:42 ` Wols Lists
2024-01-31 21:30 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-01 10:16 ` Michael
2024-02-05 12:55 ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2024-02-05 13:35 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-06 13:12 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-06 20:27 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-07 11:11 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-07 21:59 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-08 6:32 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-08 17:36 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-09 12:53 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-06 15:38 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-06 16:13 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-06 17:22 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-07 11:21 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-01-31 18:00 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-02 23:39 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-02 23:58 ` Mark Knecht
2024-02-03 16:02 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-03 17:05 ` Wol
2024-02-04 6:24 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-04 9:59 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-04 15:48 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-05 8:28 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-06 15:35 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-06 16:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-06 17:29 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-07 11:04 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-06 23:17 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-07 11:07 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-07 21:50 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-08 6:38 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-08 17:44 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-09 12:57 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-02-09 15:48 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-09 17:11 ` Peter Humphrey
2024-02-06 20:49 ` Wols Lists
2024-02-03 13:02 ` Michael
2024-02-03 16:15 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-03 17:32 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-03 18:10 ` Michael
2024-02-05 12:48 ` J. Roeleveld
2024-01-31 15:38 ` Grant Edwards
2024-02-04 10:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Paul Ezvan
2024-02-07 22:36 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2024-02-08 5:26 ` William Kenworthy
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