From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Sc4sG-0000hT-3L for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:17:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55CC6E05FE; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out4.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.220]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBC1E050C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:15:37 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EALOuzk98qSCZ/2dsb2JhbABFhU6udIEHghgBAQUjZgsNCwICHwcCAiE2GYd9AwoMpHGJBQ2JSgSBI4kQYAEagmiCBIESA4g+iw6HHyKFCYR7gm2BUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,721,1330876800"; d="scan'208";a="1980087" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([124.169.32.153]) by icp-osb-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2012 09:15:32 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEE8218815 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:15:29 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lan.localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.lan.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B6DhjjHkWVvy for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:15:22 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.48.1] (troll [192.168.48.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15399224D29 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:15:00 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <1338945285.26651.2.camel@troll> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lockdown: free/open OS maker pays Microsoft ransom for the right to boot on users' computers From: Bill Kenworthy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:14:45 +0800 In-Reply-To: References: <1338603963.12172.1.camel@moriah> <201206041349.07469.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201206051352.36523.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 4bad2a70-8a0f-4679-aa5c-c6a781a3af11 X-Archives-Hash: 6025a892ca6d250f6f4322894db4afa6 On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 10:21 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Monday 04 Jun 2012 13:57:11 Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Mick wrote: > >> > On Saturday 02 Jun 2012 23:50:58 pk wrote: > >> [snip] > >> > >> >> I'm putting on my tinfoil hat now and I'm going to pretend it's > >> >> raining... :-/ > >> > > >> > Can I please join you if you have a spare hat? > >> > > >> > On a 3 year old Dell laptop manufactured by the famous and well known > >> > Winbond Electronics I see this under lshw: > >> > > >> > *-remoteaccess UNCLAIMED > >> > vendor: Intel > >> > physical id: 2 > >> > capabilities: outbound > >> > > >> > but have not found a way of interrogating it or in anyway accessing it to > >> > understand what it is or does ... > >> > > >> > > >> > Note, this is not a UEFI machine: > >> > > >> > capabilities: smbios-2.6 dmi-2.6 vsyscall32 > >> > >> What proc? > > > > If you mean what /proc is this remoteaccess thing in, I don't really know. > > How can I find it? > > Sorry...what CPU do you have? > > cat /proc/cpuinfo > > Maybe this? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface There is a kernel interface (under power management I think) and I seem to remember some of my recent motherboards come with it. If you have a dell, look up iDRECV which does something similar. Its not only the cpu, but the motherboard you need to worry about. BillK