From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S133m-0005vN-AE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:52:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40E86E0CFB; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.148]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37016E0B25 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:51:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkHAOQFSE98qOtk/2dsb2JhbABCgwGCJ61ogQeBcwEBBSNmCw0LAgIZDQICVxmIBaYbkXCBL4dfg38oAwECAwIBBgICBQcKAgIDBQ4SAgUDAoUUBQMBYx6CCIEWBIhNkksijH0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,478,1325433600"; d="scan'208";a="763588168" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([124.168.235.100]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 25 Feb 2012 05:51:00 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683129A6D6 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:51:00 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lan.localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.lan.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ndQVVJFWb5s3 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:50:56 +0800 (WST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5856A92371 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:50:56 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ? From: William Kenworthy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <20120224032218.GA3269@ca.inter.net> <4F4719FD.1080400@coolmail.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:50:55 +0800 Message-ID: <1330120255.24315.14.camel@moriah> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 51a57523-ccdf-42e7-bc55-ca4cb9f8b35d X-Archives-Hash: cf7a39ad0274164ac9db9d9fdc148c2a On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 15:35 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: > >> On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> > >>> user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a > >>> PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works > >>> is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. > >> > >> It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty much > >> "guaranteed" with current browsers. > > > > Flash has about 95% coverage. > > That means virtually everyone has it installed. > > That's hard to believe. The number of iPads and and iPhones out there > is getting pretty high, and they don't have flash and never will. > Work supplied an ipad for me - what a pain. So many sites use flash its relegated to "toy" status even for web browsing. For my Cisco Netacademy work Ive installed win7 in qemu and access via rdp so I can use view flash, webinars etc. On a recent trip to Europe we took my wifes ipad and at the last minute added my old sony vaio (gentoo) laptop to the luggage - as well we did or we would have been stranded - so many booking/travel information sites use flash ... Reality is (for us) we cant do without being able to view flash content. BillK