From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXujd-0005qq-3i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 13:07:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CF2521C0FD; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14EB21C0DD for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6774620198 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:05:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=letterboxes.org; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; s=mesmtp; bh=f2icyS7+OICdbr0WHQ1x5118lf8=; b=S6JuhMnzDauM5BVhniQVR94EOBd7 agyImBUFPqKWEUJ+wi7e5Xk5KQKfwCcWLGUDpFIxkBd/20+Jctx4hOyN7fPi7r2W ZBbiIKLV4hrz98DT0/FS0f5QCaPrXDWYNXsm+NB8EaL/kkGpSApIck+3AgstZD7w KKneWFGqHqkvY8M= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=f2icyS7+OICdbr0WHQ1x5118lf8=; b=jGP ioNYa/EeBq48OU2W7sUFOYgNa69qZEQ+NJdFBKBgsfCzgMOJL7/9bGy6succdmOG HCYqcNtlGLg1LT+Dy6sy1fgaUQ9/gy7Ij7j/HxhYGa043Ul2/+ADEcLhy9jVcrgw wpdsXXKsq9fNTo4it+itydW92mp5tubaVslFL/bU= X-Sasl-enc: H5wjE+qvqzx35SGJk0cUAK2UoZGEiItGlI2h5jxjmg8z 1323176702 Received: from [192.168.31.28] (cpe-174-109-032-219.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.32.219]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1574C4824E2 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:05:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1323176701.12317.20.camel@stretch> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ? From: "Albert W. Hopkins" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:05:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4EDE0A9F.5010203@xunil.at> References: <4EDE0A9F.5010203@xunil.at> Face: 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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 76da3382-bd56-4fe8-bdae-64d0ae63a5f7 X-Archives-Hash: fd3251a887abf4376c11e95c33bf4220 On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 13:29 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I have an offer to sell my Lenovo ThinkPad R61 (Intel Core2Duo T8100). > > I am rather happy with that notebook, after having upgraded RAM, SSD and > a new batterypack. > > The opportunity to get some money for it instead of using it until it > isn't worth anything anymore makes me look for a new thinkpad. > > I'd like to keep with thinkpads as I like the overall quality ... > > Now there are so many variants and additionally it is always the > question how the specific device behaves with linux and/or gentoo. > > Maybe anyone in here has some good recommendation out of personal > experience? > > wishlist: > > core i5-2xxx CPU > >=4 GB RAM > any hdd (I will put my SSD in there) > ~15 inches of matte display > > I like that thinklight feature ... though it's not a must ;-) > > That's about it for a first thought. > > Thanks, looking forward to any tips, Stefan > I too have an R61... was happy that it came preinstalled with Linux (albeit SuSe Linux) and the general experience with it has been rather pleasant. It was my first ThinkPad and what got me "hooked" on them. Earlier this year I bought an X1.. I was specifically looking for something thinner/lighter and without things I don't use (e.g. optical drive and VGA port). The X1 fits the bill, but with some caveats.. it's a glossy widescreen. While I've gotten use to the screen (and actually like it in many ways), I'd still rather have a 4:3 screen. The thinness and lightness, and nice backlit keyboard make up for it though. The X1 is pretty much Gentoo-friendly. all the hardware I have is supported (well I haven't tried the fingerprint reader in Gentoo, but it works to boot/resume the machine). Bluetooth and SDHC adapter works. All "extra" keys work (there aren't really many extra keys, which I like). HDMI works (though I haven't tried audio via HDMI yet). The USB3 port works. The eSATA port works. Bluetooth works. Things you may not like: built-in battery. The battery life is kinda only so-so, which is disappointing for a thin/light. I get about 3-4 hours on a charge. I've heard reports of bigger ThinkPads getting better battery life. It does have an option. Oh, the keyboard is different, but I like it. I type pretty well on it (as a programmer I bang on it quite a lot). I originally had a problem where the up arrow seemed not to "fit" correctly, and had to apply a little extra pressure to get it to work, but I guess normal wear on it has made it act normally. Some people complained that there is not CAPS lock indicator on the machine, but as I have CAPS mapped to another CTRL key, it has not been an issue for me. When I got my X1 it kept shutting down.. overheating or whatever. It was *very* annoying. I took it to the authorized repair center a few times. First they replaced the fan, then the battery. Finally I quasi-purposefully bricked it (updated the firmware and it shut off midway). I took it to the repair center again. This time they shipped it to Lenovo. Lenovo replaced the motherboard. And, quite surprisingly, they replaced my i3 processor with an i7 for free. Since the motherboard replacement, the machine has not shut down on me once (and I stress it pretty good with Gentoo) so perhaps it was just a bad capacitor or something. When it's cool it's quiet. When it's hot the fan is pretty audible. But it usually cools down pretty quick after an emerge. All-in-all, I really like the thin/lightness of the machine. It's very portable, but not one of those netbooks (which are too small for my tastes and I never touched one with a keyboard that I liked). It's powerful enough for my needs and the build quality is good (not withstanding the original heating issue (repaired), the keyboard issue (fixed itself), and the glossy screen (learned to live with it). Hope this helps, -a