From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-131695-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RV48v-0007ba-6N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:33:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 408C521C070; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E341721C070 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id A080121A35 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:31:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=letterboxes.org; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; s=mesmtp; bh=JnPXCc8YwYZqeCmOLc9OOvlgXpE=; b=OzFvI9om+XRMeEb81y96jpxFbU0E 5rpYkrF3NahVsSlmqUOQKzdy3YwsLMbr3DaE+O61jRjMFvAj9pkXWbAkphTgAPO5 B1nEq40v7YUcOUNRqxDFa8UE6/Id9QSHEnglJK6IQ0LVirZbxYWSjbpzcCWqKiyr 1b1SY/NQDbMkelE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=JnPXCc8YwYZqeCmOLc9OOvlgXpE=; b=r7i sKMqKirncoaJwASi8oC6Dn0FO3jTvICMkXBWJO+hxU1HNo23QoLrWHQF8e5gPGua +fLiaejS2RmU4nxxpwLtECgzzl7QN9f5GHbL+agOYEGmMqk9g5xujVd2xUgDQ97h cub2iO8ib1rz+s4dG46vX9Fq7kotIOUtBnJ8aCRc= X-Sasl-enc: juXdmNJcmDAeEUpCc5XfbD25uOXBDjnIZCJfagizXByK 1322497904 Received: from [192.168.0.119] (48-8-255-199.rev.celito.net [199.255.8.48]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6696B8E009B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:31:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1322497904.6295.6.camel@stretch> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6? From: "Albert W. Hopkins" <marduk@letterboxes.org> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:31:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <jb0c26$vpg$1@dough.gmane.org> References: <jatlds$eo7$1@dough.gmane.org> <4ED28F6A.7090606@alyf.net> <1322483386.66469.4.camel@stretch> <jb0c26$vpg$1@dough.gmane.org> Face: 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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: b77b021b-097e-4abe-b10a-42621b7f2f33 X-Archives-Hash: 8a28f0119ada9ff19dcb0a49f9eba9f3 On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:15 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Generally true, but not when something is obviously broken. That > means > not even its upstream dev bothered to test it. > > ~arch is for "we think this works, but please give it a go in case > there > are problems". It's *not* for "we have no idea if this works because > we > didn't even try it once". You're experience is obviously different than mine. I've been using Gentoo for many years and sometimes things in unstable don't even compile... and it's obvious that the Gentoo developers didn't even attempt to compile it. This is par for the course. And you're talking about a feature that is already documented as "probably won't work" and you're expecting them to test *that* given that they don't even test things that are expected to work?! Good luck with that.