From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QZhyo-0005Uq-UP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:21:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECBCE1C0DD; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7AF1C0DD for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E572115B for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:18:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=mRbubg7X6WC6wvrgoh3tjf3o8z0=; b=dvoRVClVzNPRTRDpS7qBvK4+mo8u4OlpOwHOGRD20pwJ1orP6fC5xNK3+DeB3Ll0P1NczwV3B7ArAYYFUbIRrFO4xe1X3QBHkMjp4vm0I/YUG210heAh3Dh56embvUaxgPNLyRyVulWb6IVpQ7yuFKrILb6xWzHlmcrsy5EmE58= X-Sasl-enc: flTOqIr+1OtBhju+c1AGV9oyVzPotPM5QFcl/oRlTxSS 1308827922 Received: from [192.168.31.28] (cpe-174-109-037-078.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.37.78]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EABC9406447 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance From: Albert Hopkins To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4E02C27C.9010808@gmail.com> References: <87k4cdcz55.fsf@newsguy.com> <1308787916.71397.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4E029765.9060903@gmail.com> <1308795285.71397.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4E02C27C.9010808@gmail.com> Face: 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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:15:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1308827720.71397.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 097bf450f379b8c5137ae5fa114c37b8 On Thursday, June 23 at 00:35 (-0400), Matthew Finkel said: > Oh, don't get me wrong, that's one reason I use qcow2 myself, but it's > either something he would have to deal with when he received it or the > conversion would increase the size of the disk image that would be > shipped to him. Yes, of course a raw image file will typically be bigger than a compressed qcow, just as an unpacked stage4..tar.bz2 file is going to be bigger than the original archive. But in terms transferability, compressed qcows are more efficient since they only include *used* blocks and they are compressed. I can convert the image into any of a number of formats, but the issue then is it will be bigger, and thus take me longer to upload it and the OP to download it.