From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QSewq-0000PX-4k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 00:42:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 644201C09A; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out5.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out5.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.105]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19671C09A for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:40:56 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEGALp+6U18lP0y/2dsb2JhbABTmCeOIHfKOYYhBIZujk4dimE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,317,1304265600"; d="scan'208";a="271710948" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([124.148.253.50]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out5.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Jun 2011 08:40:37 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C96E20AA20B for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:40:37 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8RySk6mk624s for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:40:32 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.44.2] (rattus.localdomain [192.168.44.2]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38F81F6C78E for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 08:40:32 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] autofs From: William Kenworthy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4DE8DA34.7060205@binarywings.net> References: <201106031244.57456.stephane@22decembre.eu> <201106031337.54808.stephane@22decembre.eu> <4541232.ejeL7krNmS@localhost> <201106031425.31441.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4DE8DA34.7060205@binarywings.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Organization: Home in Perth! Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:40:12 +0800 Message-ID: <1307148012.9608.48.camel@rattus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 745894cd4e6eb660100799c32a8534e8 On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 14:57 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 03.06.2011 14:25, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:18 on Friday 03 June 2011, Volker = Armin=20 > > Hemmann did opine thusly: > >=20 > >> On Friday 03 June 2011 13:37:54 St=E9phane Guedon wrote: > >>> On Friday 03 June 2011 12:55:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 12:44 on Friday 03 June 2011, St=E9= phane > >>>> Guedon > >>>> > >>>> did opine thusly: > [...] > >>>> > >>>> The point is that NFS was not designed with laptops and other devi= ces > >>>> that can be disconnected in mind. It was designed for secure LANs = that > >>>> do not change much, and laptops present issues that are not easy t= o > >>>> solve. > [...] > >>> > >>> Nfs hasn't been designed for laptop, it's ok. But, appart from coda > >>> (which has a file size limit of 1 giga, so, useless in home network= ing), > >>> I know nothing that is fit for network file-sharing for laptop (the > >>> laptop isn't the server of course). > >>> > >>> I search a solution for that since years ! > >> > >> samba? > >=20 > > +1 > >=20 > > Samba works nicely for ad-hoc connections, the kind of thing Windows = clients=20 > > would do. And it's a lot more tolerant of connections going away than= NFS. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > I always was under the impression that NFS is more fault-tolerant on th= e > network because of its usage of stateless UDP connections whereas CIFS > usually freezes when the connection is lost. In the end, both issue an > IO error, usually crashing an unprepared application. So, in which > regard performs CIFS better with interrupted connections? >=20 > That being said, I always use NFS over TCP because of performance issue= s > with UDP and wireless LAN. >=20 > Regards, > Florian Philipp >=20 No, its ok in a fixed network but you get wierd issues like clients hanging on shutdown because the NFS server goes away first, and its an administrative pita when it stops working - could be firewall, something missed in a new kernel etc. Ive been using it for mythtv and diskless systems (NFS over TCP) for quite awhile and its a fight every few months to find out why host x syuddenly doesnt want to play. But otherwise works well use wise in a controlled environment. Laptops are a whole different matter though - you might be better off side stepping if its only looking at media by looking into streaming rather than storage mapping. Otherwise, Samba is probably the next best. BillK --=20 William Kenworthy Home in Perth!