From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P1UCF-0003xV-4h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 01:13:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD714E0D41; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 01:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.148]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12BAE0D41 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 01:13:52 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAEnSpEw6B+nh/2dsb2JhbACDH58YcbRBkhSBInaCOHQEhE+IbxY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.57,262,1283702400"; d="scan'208";a="642738342" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([58.7.233.225]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2010 09:13:50 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88BD1DF75B1 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:13:49 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O0Dv-87e5EyL for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:13:45 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.48.1] (troll [192.168.48.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8841CC1426 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:13:44 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager OK? kNetworkManager broken? Wireless setup very confusing... From: Bill Kenworthy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:13:41 +0800 Message-ID: <1285895621.28368.12.camel@troll> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f291696d-b32a-48de-81bd-3951dac6e5e1 X-Archives-Hash: 82d41ab4dbbc481758abd5bf13e91e5e Gentoo networking is a bit on the wild side - it doesnt seem to work nicely with third party tools without a lot of work. My fix was to manually configure each location (and a couple of general ones such as wifi hotspot, and basic wired dhcp) as I came across them and copy the resulting config files to separate directories. Then when I need to return to a location I just copy the matching set of files back and restart services. Allows a "profile" based approach based on site - some need different screen resolutions, apache or bind running, external projector, firewall settings for VoIP or not and so on - all able to be scripted. Very flexible as I control it with a shell script linked to a gtkdialog for site selection one click to open dialog, second click selects site. I have decided not to automate site selection (such as netwwork detection on cable plugin) as I wanted control :) So my reccomendation is forget networkmanager (particularly that heap of !#$#%$@) and the like and roll your own. BillK On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 18:37 -0600, Darren Kirby wrote: > Hello all, > > Getting very frustrated here. Trying to put the finishing touches on a > new laptop install. I have verified using the CLI that both wired and > wireless networking works fine when I configure manually. As with most > laptops, I would imagine, I will be switching locations often, and > switching between several different networks both wired and wireless. > I thought the thing to do would be to install a slick gui to take care > of this. To that end I installed NetworkManager, and KNetworkManager > as a front-end as I use a KDE desktop. As far as I can tell Network > Manager is working fine, I followed the instructions for setup from > the wiki here[0] and here[1], and it does seem to setup a wired > connection on eth0 just fine. However, I am getting an error upon > trying to start Knetworkmanager: > > " KNetworkManager can not start because the installation is misconfigured. > System DBUS policy does not allow it to provide user settings. > contact your system administrator or distribution. > KNetworkManager will not start automatically in future." > > Not sure why, as per the wiki I added: > > > > > send_interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager"/> > > > to /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf, and added my user to > plugdev group. Is there something else I'm missing? I'm unsure how to > further troubleshoot. I also tried the NetworkManager plasmoid for > kde, but that is just bombing with a bunch off error messages I can't > read in the 'connections' window. > > I am wondering if I should just uninstall KNetworkManager, and try > nm-applet? Will that even work on a KDE desktop? Will it require > installing boatloads of gnome crap I don't want? Should I chuck the > whole works and use Wicd? > > At this point I'd be happy with pretty much any solution that just > works, I've wasted the better half of the day on this and I'm starting > to think I should just stick to using the CLI...this frustration just > isn't worth it. > > Do any of you folks out there have an easy, simple solution to > configuring wireless that you like? I'm open to any ideas. > > [0] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NetworkManager > [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KNetworkManager > -- > Support the mob or mysteriously disappear... > I'm on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/badcomputer/ >