From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OlW7l-0003hH-Fi for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:03:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE3BBE09B0 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out6.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out6.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.109]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0E9E0AEA for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:32:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMGAAy5akx8qebx/2dsb2JhbACDGJATjRZxrhKSGIEigyJzBIQviDE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.56,224,1280678400"; d="scan'208";a="146213472" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([124.169.230.241]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out6.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2010 07:32:39 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925EB1CC9143 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:32:39 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rqOGJrV1ISbt for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:32:36 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.44.2] (rattus [192.168.44.2]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1FE1B2D225 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:32:36 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1 From: William Kenworthy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <201008171734.59882.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> References: <201008171033.09425.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201008171421.35070.peter.ruskin@dsl.pipex.com> <201008171734.59882.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Home in Perth! Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:32:32 +0800 Message-ID: <1282087952.8769.8.camel@rattus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b3f37de3-8625-45fa-83e4-e7aa499b5aea X-Archives-Hash: f42d2e4076ea86348ac56752656124ed Hi Alan, a suggestion - for "mission critical" clone one of your systems into a vm (dd), get it working, upgrade and test. Or clone to a chroot and do the same. Not quite 100% - but allows some peace of mind! BillK On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 17:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 17 August 2010 15:21:35 Peter Ruskin wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 August 2010 09:33:09 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Hi, > > >=20 > > > Anyone successfully built and using glibc-2.12.1 yet? > > >=20 > > > I see the tree just pushed an update down from 2.11.2 to 2.12.1, > > > and downgrading that package is decidedly non-trivial. Only > > > comment I can find at this early stage is flameeye's blog, and > > > this makes me quadruple nervous: > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > And if you say that =E2=80=9Cthe new GLIBC works for me=E2=80=9D, a= re you saying > > > that the package itself builds or if it=E2=80=99s actually integrat= ed > > > correctly? Because, you know, I used to rebuild the whole system > > > whenever I made a change to basic system packages when I > > > maintained Gentoo/FreeBSD, and saying that it=E2=80=99s ready for ~= arch > > > when you haven=E2=80=99t even rebuilt the system (and you haven=E2=80= =99t, or you > > > would have noticed that m4 was broken) is definitely something > > > I=E2=80=99d define as reckless and I=E2=80=99d venture to say you=E2= =80=99re not good > > > material to work on the quality assurance status. > > >=20 > > > =E2=80=9Ccorrectness=E2=80=9D in the case of the system C library w= ould be =E2=80=9Cit a > > > t least leaves the system set building and running=E2=80=9D; glibc = 2.12 > > > does not work this way. > >=20 > > OK here on ~amd64, but you got me worried so I emerged m4 to check > > and that went OK too. >=20 >=20 > I got a couple of replies, all like this one - positive. >=20 > Thanks, all. I'll start the update later on tonight and let 'er run. >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 William Kenworthy Home in Perth!