From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OHUku-0004JU-RV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 27 May 2010 04:31:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A31FE0884; Thu, 27 May 2010 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.pcorp.com.au (mail2.pcorp.com.au [150.101.72.19]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1E8E0884 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.pcorp.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9AEA0001B for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 14:01:03 +0930 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.pcorp.com.au Received: from mail2.pcorp.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.pcorp.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MqW9UjafP9iQ; Thu, 27 May 2010 14:01:02 +0930 (CST) Received: from [172.16.0.52] (unknown [172.16.0.52]) by mail2.pcorp.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79D9A00019 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 14:01:02 +0930 (CST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Harddisk trouble ... or not yet? From: Iain Buchanan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1274932320.16963.24.camel@bunyip.localdomain> References: <20100526031510.GA5053@solfire> <201005261959.32671.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <20100526200538.2d35834c@digimed.co.uk> <201005262113.06494.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <20100526214055.2c814340@digimed.co.uk> <20100527001915.GA5748@solfire> <20100527024359.GA5123@solfire> <1274932320.16963.24.camel@bunyip.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:59:18 +0930 Message-ID: <1274934558.5721.19.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e8820049-641c-4ee9-97f9-dd38f76cfbb8 X-Archives-Hash: ab1772fcf63bf17eac0ea9c864449081 On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 11:52 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: > So something like SMART is the only way for the average Joe to get the > health of a drive. > > Google has lots on this sort of thing That sentence is correct in more than one way! "Google the generic term for any web page found via searching on Google" no doubt has lots on this sort of thing, but so does "Google the company". I remember reading a SlasDot post about the results of their disk monitoring over the last x years, and they use and monitor a lot of disks. *looking* Here's the full study: http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.html >>From the abstract: "...we conclude that models based on SMART parameters alone are unlikely to be useful for predicting individual drive failures. Surprisingly, we found that temperature and activity levels were much less correlated with drive failures than previously reported." I recall there were some summaries of this article, but I can't find them right now. An interesting read. Basically, you might not be able to get reliable warnings of impending failures. Keep Good Backups (so say we all) -- Iain Buchanan The naked truth of it is, I have no shirt. -- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"